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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #53935
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The pressure is greatest when the hood is "CLOSED"

Frank, If it has all that pressure on it, why doesn't the hood pop open when you pull the pins?
It takes a couple of pounds to lift the hood off of the stops before the springs take over.


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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: Barry70GTX] #53936
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The pressure is greatest when the hood is "CLOSED"

Frank, If it has all that pressure on it, why doesn't the hood pop open when you pull the pins?
It takes a couple of pounds to lift the hood off of the stops before the springs take over.




You have to understand that the hood is a "certain " length. now you have to relize where the pivot point of the hinges are. So based on that distance from the hinge to the front of the hood is weight and leverage. So based apond that , length weight and distance to the hinge pivot is the reason why you DO GET THE WARPAGE ! from the force of the spring trying to raise the hood, but it can't because the hood pins are holding it down. Thats why I say leave the stupid springs off! Kev

Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: B5TA] #53937
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but it can't because the hood pins are holding it down

Really!!!! You pull your hood pins and the hood flies up?


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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: Barry70GTX] #53938
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but it can't because the hood pins are holding it down

Really!!!! You pull your hood pins and the hood flies up?




Sorry, my bad! I quess I didn't write it like I was trying to say it, so you would understand what I meant. No the hood DOES NOT FLY OPEN ! But yes when the hood is CLOSED those springs are applying upward (constant) pressure on the hood between the hinge and where it is held down at the pins. Ok you guys do what YOU want concerning the use of those springs on your cars , but aleast you know what MY opinion is of them. The hood on my T/A was screwed up because of those springs back in 1972 and to this day is still messed up ! Good Luck To All! Kev

Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: cataclysm80] #53939
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I tracked down this old thread looking for some steel hood spring info, and thought I'd just bump it to the top in case anyone needs this info. As far as I know, I wasn't able to get the manufacturer to change the labeling, so they're still mislabeled.

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again. Someone in another thread could use this AAR vs. T/A spring info.

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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: cataclysm80] #53941
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Anyone know if this problem has been fixed?
I just purchased a set of Year One AAR springs and after rereading this thread, I think I may just return them and make a steel bar to hold the hinge open as described.
And return the overpriced springs, as I know they were half that not long ago.
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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: 3406pac] #53942
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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: 3406pac] #53943
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I haven't heard anything new about them.
If you don't like the Year One price, maybe you can find a set elsewhere for less? I think these repro springs used to cost between $50 and $60. Has the price gone up?
Does Year One still have the MOPARTS15 discount going on?

Tav

Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: cataclysm80] #2231443
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Time for an update.

I saw a few places outside of Moparts where people were still having trouble figuring out what hood springs to use on the Mopar Trans Am cars.

I looked at Year One again, and they STILL have their springs mislabeled. That's at least 15 years of misleading people.

Vans Auto seems to have their springs labeled correctly, which is nice. Finally a little progress.

Hopefully other places will start labeling their parts correctly in the future.

This picture should make it easier for everyone to know which spring is for which car.

Tav


Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: cataclysm80] #2231444
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these came with the single 4bbl AAR hood assembly I purchased last year

un-painted from new (NOS but used) & I'll "ASSUME" the gray stripe is how they were identified on the assembly line

NOS AAR hood springs.jpg
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I could be mistaken but I was under the assumption that the TA hood springs were lighter tension than the steel hoods. Glass hoods where lighter than steel i thought.


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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: Jalaska907] #2231446
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yes, these springs are lighter duty - they are ~1" inside diameter, the steel hood springs are ~1.5" ID

Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: Jalaska907] #2252801
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Yep, Fiberglass hood springs are a lot lighter than steel hood springs.

Additionally, AAR hood springs are lighter than T/A hood springs.
The T/A hood has a big scoop and also goes all the way to the front of the car, so the T/A hood is heavier than the AAR hood.

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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
these came with the single 4bbl AAR hood assembly I purchased last year



Thanks for the pic Dan!

A 4 barrel AAR hood assembly? Is that from one of the factory sponsored race cars?
That sounds like an interesting story.

Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: cataclysm80] #2785934
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Has anyone bought a T/A spring lately ? I bought a "T/A"spring a few years ago and now know why my hood doesn't stay all the way up. I went to Van's website, it shows one, but no description. His ebay store doesn't list one, it does list a AAR one. I messaged him, hadn't heard back yet. Also, the spring I have definitely isn't an AAR spring, not sure what I have, but for sure it is either too long or not enough tension. Not worried about hood bowing.

update: just heard from Van's, he doesn't have any T/A springs.......

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disregard, wrong springs again...

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Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: roadrunninMark] #2787014
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Just thought I'd update this. Van's doesn't have them. Year One has had them on backorder for over a year. Hoover auto parts has them, but they have the usual mix-up between T/A and AAR. With shipping, they're approx. $150. Myself, I'm holding off on paying that.

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I would think you would be able to find them at Carlisle next month.

Re: AAR vs. T/A Hood Springs [Re: roadrunninMark] #2790914
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People have mentioned a prop rod. No need for that ever on AAR/TA cars. Look at your hinges, they have pre-drilled holes in them. Take a round stock think 5/16" bend 2 90's in them. Put these in the holes, will have to measure to get an exact length. But it's much safer & looks better than a "broom handle."
Sorry wished I had pictures to show exactly what I mean, but our TA is gone.
But a great fix to a simple issue.
Thanks, Ken

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