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PPP shifter? #2780768
06/02/20 03:08 PM
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Does anyone know if PPP is shut down rt now? I placed and order on April 28th and cant get an answer phone or e-mail.

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: 493_john] #2780795
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I ordered a PPPshifter around May 7th. Got no response to phone calls or emails, at that time, while trying to buy direct. Had to go through John Holt Racecars, recommended by several on this site, to get it ordered.Ben at Holt racecars took care of it and was told it should be at my door in 3-4 weeks.The very next morning after placing the order I got an email from Brad at PPP apologizing for missing my calls and emails,and assured me my order was in the line. He said they were very busy. I wasn't even sure that they would be open at that time,with virus restrictions. I probably have about another weeks wait.If it shows up by then,I'm good.Call Ben at John Holt racecars, he is agreat person to deal with.
(614)471 1022. they are in Columbus, Ohio Bill

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: lancer493] #2780934
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I already ordered direct from PPP.

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: 493_john] #2780943
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Still call Ben! He’ll help you out. From my understanding PPP is a very small deal. You’ll be glad you got their shifter though!

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: 493_john] #2780946
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I call them based on their adds and pricing (edited: $299.00) in the National dragster for their Powerglide shifter, after talking to him and seeing the price at $700+ that was way above the priced in the National dragster I decided to go with the Biondo brand up scopetwocents
It works very well also up

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Re: PPP shifter? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2780954
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I call them based on their adds and pricing in the National dragster for their Powerglide shifter, after talking to him and seeing the price at $700+ that was priced in the National dragster I decided to go with the Biondo brand up scopetwocents
It works very well also up


That's weird. Their top of the line with air shifter is $435.00. I guess add the accessories and you be around $525.00

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: Sammy] #2780964
06/03/20 07:22 AM
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The airshifter and all needed accesories to complete the system ,from scratch,will top $800 ,out the door.This does not include timing/triggering device(I will be using Biondo unit allowing separate rpm shift points for Torqueflite). Its not cheap by any means, but in this case I just hope you get what you pay for.That 1-2 shift is gonna come real fast in my car. I am 66yrs old and haven't driven a fast racecar since 1981! I am not gonna let my ego get in the way. Let the wind do the shifting! Bill

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: lancer493] #2780968
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Kinda wierd you call and call, they wont answer, or return messages. But if you call a vendor, they respond to them right away.
Glad i have no need for anything from them


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Re: PPP shifter? [Re: B3422W5] #2781017
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I had a ppp air shifter in my black Duster when I bought it with a 727. When I switched to powerglide I gave it to my son matt and I bought an electric ppp for my car. Being a very small shop it’s not the kind of business you can try three times a day to get ahold of them. You gotta stick to it and once you get ahold of them all is well. I went through it again when I wanted to upgrade my manually shifted ppp shifter in my heads up car to electric. I tried and tried and finally got ahold of them and placed my order. Again all went well. If you are the type that gives up easily you better hand the job of getting ahold of to someone else.


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9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
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Re: PPP shifter? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2781045
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I know a guy who always seems to have one or two lying around, and has supplied a few guys here with one smile No I don't have one for sale know Shiloh got the last one smile But I am sure I will again have another

You wont be disappointed once you receive it. IMO best to use a dealer as they get response quicker for sure. It is a very small operation for sure and not a lot of time for phone conversations.

Re: PPP shifter? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2781053
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
I had a ppp air shifter in my black Duster when I bought it with a 727. When I switched to powerglide I gave it to my son matt and I bought an electric ppp for my car. Being a very small shop it’s not the kind of business you can try three times a day to get ahold of them. You gotta stick to it and once you get ahold of them all is well. I went through it again when I wanted to upgrade my manually shifted ppp shifter in my heads up car to electric. I tried and tried and finally got ahold of them and placed my order. Again all went well. If you are the type that gives up easily you better hand the job of getting ahold of to someone else.


I would assume if they are too busy to answer a phone you could leave a message and expect to hear back from them. If not, why have a phone
I have a business, returning calls from prospective customers i think has to be an ultra high priority
Thats just me, call me crazy. Lol


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3285 race weight
Re: PPP shifter? [Re: B3422W5] #2781060
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Originally Posted by B3422W5
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
I had a ppp air shifter in my black Duster when I bought it with a 727. When I switched to powerglide I gave it to my son matt and I bought an electric ppp for my car. Being a very small shop it’s not the kind of business you can try three times a day to get ahold of them. You gotta stick to it and once you get ahold of them all is well. I went through it again when I wanted to upgrade my manually shifted ppp shifter in my heads up car to electric. I tried and tried and finally got ahold of them and placed my order. Again all went well. If you are the type that gives up easily you better hand the job of getting ahold of to someone else.


I would assume if they are too busy to answer a phone you could leave a message and expect to hear back from them. If not, why have a phone
I have a business, returning calls from prospective customers i think has to be an ultra high priority
Thats just me, call me crazy. Lol




Personally I don’t leave messages. Not if I call you, my dear departed mother, or ppp.


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9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
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Re: PPP shifter? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2781083
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I spec'd one off their website and had a vendor order it. I found out that you really need to talk to someone to avoid confusion. I wanted a shifter with the rear exit cable to go on a 904 with a rear entry cable. I looked up all their part numbers, and ended up with a shifter with a push away shift pattern, but the cable goes into the trans at the front. I tried to trade it back in but could never get in touch with them.

I would order another, but I will definitely go through Holt.


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Re: PPP shifter? [Re: slantzilla] #2784705
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Just an update. Ordered PPP airshifter throughBen at John Holt racecars on May 7th. It was for clean neutral Torqueflite. Received unit yesterday, June 11th. Order was complete as spec'd and excellent quality. Very satisfied. It was the best idea to go through Ben and I highly recommend them at Holt race cars. Very customer oriented.Started installng it today. Thanks all for for steering me to the Holts. Bill





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