Guess if that oil meets the spec use it. Hagerty is real cheap for the challenger, $397 a year, zero deductible
sbird is about $500 just for storage after the multi car discount, to drive it is about $1200, value is the problem on a sbird.

That oil spec ? .... does anyone know WHY the 6.4 is diff from the 5.7 ?

I don’t mind paying TWICE THE MONEY of regular oil for this OBVIOUSLY way higher tech motor than I’ve ever had .... but WHY is it necessary? The MDS ? ... the cam, lifters ... special needs in piston cooling ??

It probably isn't any different. Most oils available to consumers meet or exceed mfg's requirements BUT if the mfg demands a particular spec that is no better than the regular stuff, the oil company still has to perform those tests on their products to verify it does in fact meet the spec before they can print it on the bottle. This costs $$$ and a lot of companies crunch the numbers and discover there aren't enough go fast 6.4 oil changes to be had to justify the cost of certification.

This makes finding the correct oil to do your oil change with, a complete pain in the a$$ and drives you back to the dealer who surprise surprise has boat loads of it in stock. Add in the threat of warranty issues should something go boom and you just begrudgingly pay the ransom to the dealer who doesn't care if your happy, only that you paid.

In short, it's a racket.

Kevin

Sears guy ..... a racket ? a game ? Is that what happy to Mobil 1 and their 0-40 ?

Probably.

Kevin

Happy to Mobil 1 .... lol... stupid speal chuck sometimes

HAPPENED to Mobil 1 !

But FCA can’t get by calling it a game ... there has to some type of reasoning behind it !

A bit more zinc for the cam and lifters ?

What about the quality of the complete oiling system is most important for the MDS ?

Here is FCA's oil recommendation for the Hellcats. The issue that plagues the Hellcat guys is that FCA Material Standard MS-12633. Apparently MS-12633 is FCA's own spec, not an industry spec. And apparently the PUP is the only oil that has been tested by or for FCA to meet that particular spec. We can all guess just why that is. All of the other oil specifications are readily available in several different oils from different manufacturers. Does your owner's manual list the same spec for your engine?


Engine Oil Selection
For best performance and maximum protection under all types of operating conditions, the manufacturer only recommends full synthetic engine oils that meet the American Petroleum Institute (API) categories of SN.

The manufacturer recommends the use of a full synthetic SAE 0W-40 engine oil or equivalent meeting the requirements of FCA Material Standard MS-12633.

Engine Oil Viscosity
Use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40 engine or equivalent Mopar oil meeting the FCA Material Standard MS-12633 for use in all operating temperatures.

The engine oil filler cap also shows the recommended engine oil viscosity for your engine. For information on engine oil filler cap location, refer to “Engine Compartment” in this section for further information.

Synthetic Engine Oils
You may use synthetic engine oils provided the recommended oil quality requirements are met, and the recommended maintenance intervals for oil and filter changes are followed.

Synthetic engine oils which do not have both the engine oil certification mark and the correct SAE viscosity grade number should not be used.

d23 .... but supposedly that Valvoline has that 12633 spec.

BUTTT some of the words that are used in your post IS interesting..,,..

All about oils .... recommended.... required .... should not be used .... ALL diff meaning !!!

I’ll BBL ... gotta go to Tampa then Orlando

This.

So, you're recommending 0w20 in an engine still under factory warranty that specifies 0w40?

I would hesitate to go that much thinner than the factory recommendation even if it weren't under warranty. But I certainly would not do it while the warranty was in affect.

d3 .... I agree .... I’m not going to argue THE FACT that FCA requires a 12633 spec oil ... and that oil is only 0-40.

But NOT PUP ... I’ll use Valvoline!

STILL like to hear basic reasoning behind that need for the new spec.

AGAIN - no argument from me to the CTC boyz

7 qts of oil and the correct filter was $70 today at the selling dealer, $13.50 labor to change the oil. When they found out she bought the car there with lifetime warranty, it was free. Nice surprise.

A dealer guarantee DEAL like this ? I looked at a car AT this listed dealer about 8 months ago ..... and there was NOTHING FREE about ANYTHING they did ! And to have that GUARANTEE in effect ... you had to have ALL your service work done by them ! At this Tampa dealer way inflated rates and with a ton of fine print.

CONGRATS if you got a Scatty oil change free .... but I’ll bet GIVING THAT AWAY was an error on their part

No error, this dealer does it for all new car purchases from their lot they said. We were not expecting it for free.