Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Not necessarily. It's currently late-summer/early-fall in Brazil, and they have over 30,000 confirmed cases.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/17/20 01:20 PM
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Been saying it for weeks, this is a metabolic issue. NYU study with 4k patient hospitalizations the past month, number 1 issue with positive Covid patients requiring hospitalization, Obesity: https://www.zdnet.com/article/nyu-s...ggest-factor-in-new-york-critical-cases/UK does big study on ICU patients, same conclusion: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...EA06nIEZZ5roOm0Agf0vuQmpETZPz2ty_iPEJXLoCommentary from that article by one of the doctors: What is staggering is after looking at all the data it is irrefutable that metabolic disease is the leading cause of mortality from Covid-19. This covers much of what we are already being told, that outcomes for patients suffering from Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and high blood pressure are far worse than in otherwise healthy adults. What is not being spelled out is that poor diet and obesity is behind this.We just had our entire country shut down because a virus exploits people with metabolic disease from overeating. The good news, you can control this and build your resilience so it's not a serious issue for you going forward. Sugar is now the new Tobacco, and the sugar industry will wage a similar battle to dispute any responsibility.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Japanese drug Avigan https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-avigan-antiviral-coronavirus-patients.htmlSample quote Some doctors began trying favipiravir to treat coronavirus patients early on, reasoning that its anti-viral properties would be applicable. Some initial results suggested the drug could help shorten recovery time for patients, with China's ministry of science and technology hailing it as yielding "very good clinical results". There are currently around five clinical trials ongoing in countries including the US, Italy and Japan, where Fujifilm announced it would be testing the drug's efficacy on a group of 100 patients through until the end of June. The Japan study will involve administering the drug for up to 14 days to patients between 20 and 74 with mild pneumonia. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-exhaled-aerosols-coronavirus-feetand-virus.htmlSample quote Their tests found that 70% of swab samples from the hospital floor came up positive for coronavirus, "perhaps because of gravity and air flow causing most virus droplets to float to the ground," the study authors said. "In addition, as medical staff walk around the ward, the virus can be tracked all over the floor, as indicated by the 100% rate of positivity from the floor in the [hospital] pharmacy, where there were no patients," the researchers said. "Therefore, the soles of medical staff shoes might function as carriers." Not surprisingly, swabs taken of often-touched surfaces—doorknobs, bed rails, trash cans and computer mice—typically came up positive for coronavirus. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-exhaled-aerosols-coronavirus-feetand-virus.htmlSample quote Their tests found that 70% of swab samples from the hospital floor came up positive for coronavirus, "perhaps because of gravity and air flow causing most virus droplets to float to the ground," the study authors said. "In addition, as medical staff walk around the ward, the virus can be tracked all over the floor, as indicated by the 100% rate of positivity from the floor in the [hospital] pharmacy, where there were no patients," the researchers said. "Therefore, the soles of medical staff shoes might function as carriers." Not surprisingly, swabs taken of often-touched surfaces—doorknobs, bed rails, trash cans and computer mice—typically came up positive for coronavirus. End quote After spending the last twenty years in various capacities at nuclear power plants, I can tell you the training on contamination control is top notch. Perhaps hospitals should have step off pads and rubber shoe covers to prevent the spread of contamination. Sticky pads on the floor, there are a myriad of controls that could be adopted.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Cause and Effect List cause of death.....
Say you have COPD with Diabetes complications. You are in Hospital on Oxygen due to not having enough oxygen in your blood. I come it to visit you and intentionally stand on your oxygen feeder tube cutting off all flow. You DIE. Do they list your death due to COPD or Manslaughter?
OR same two people....
Say you have COPD with Diabetes complications. You are in Hospital on Oxygen due to not having enough oxygen in your blood. I come it to visit you and I am positive but not knowing for Covid19. You get a full blown case of Covid19. It clogs up your lungs more than the COPD does and you DIE. Do they list your death due to COPD or Covid19? Should I be charged with manslaughter too because I infected you?
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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I wonder what the actual illness and demise numbers are, world-wide
Would be nice to know the "actual" numbers, but I think it'll be sometime after the "dust settles" that we'll find out how just blown out of proportion/hyped some of these events really were.... I agree 100 %. I would never write 150% or anything like that because you cannot be more than 100 % no matter what the football coach used to say.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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That would be awesome if it works.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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More scary stuff https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-china-didnt-pandemic-key-days.htmlSample quote "This is tremendous," said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients and medical facilities would have been sufficient. We might have avoided the collapse of Wuhan's medical system." Snip But the six-day delay by China's leaders in Beijing came on top of almost two weeks during which the national Center for Disease Control did not register any cases from local officials, internal bulletins obtained by the AP confirm. Yet during that time, from Jan. 5 to Jan. 17, hundreds of patients were appearing in hospitals not just in Wuhan but across the country. End quote So whatever the ultimate cause of ANY delay during the pandemic, cost lives, kinda of scary?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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As of tonight: 4-16-2020 Top 5 countries with covid-19 cases in the world: United States: 667,801 (known) cases...just under 33,000 DEATHS....and climbing Spain: 184,948 cases Italy: 168,941 cases France: 147,091 cases Germany: 137,968 cases This means the covid-19 numbers in our country is larger than the top four countries COMBINED. This is not going away until MASSIVE TESTING is put in place, all over the country on a consistant daily basis....which the federal goverment is unwilling to do. until MASSIVE TESTING is put in place, all over the country on a consistant daily basis....which the federal goverment is unwilling to do. Stop & Think about that !!!!! The Logistics are mind boggling! Just dealing with the regionalized issues of some states & hospitals became a "head-ache" to implement timely. And you say hey: Massive Testing & Daily, ALL over the country. As if ONLY the federal gov. can do it quickly. Testing Spots? Where distributed? How many? Open to All? You'd have a mass hysteria happening, rushing to them. Materials/Equip doesn't miraculously appear "overnight". And the personnel to manage it? It's comparable to vaccinating the Entire population when the regular flu season hits.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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[quote=McCandlessboy]Been saying it for weeks, this is a metabolic issue.
Sugar is now the new Tobacco, and the sugar industry will wage a similar battle to dispute any responsibility. And Salt is the new Crack. Ever shop having to pay attention to salt content? It's alarming. Added in almost most foods Humans have an affinity when it comes to Salt in our foods. The "industry" know that & don't care. Sugar plus Salt: Obesity & High Pressure. What's the problem? I'll have that foot-long Slimjim please.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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I cannot understand the logic of under inflating numbers. Japan sure understood that wrt Olympics.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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We just had our entire country shut down because a virus exploits people with metabolic disease from overeating. The good news, you can control this and build your resilience so it's not a serious issue for you going forward.
It is being intentionally under reported. I don't know if out of political correctness or what but obesity is the #1 contributor. Which stands to reason if you're overweight and your lungs are taxed and overburdened as it is, that a disease that affects the lungs is bad news. Double down yet if you smoke. This should be taken seriously. Someone else pointed out that currently Colorado is the fittest state in the union. Colorado is currently fatter than Mississippi was in 1990. In 1990 Mississippi was the fattest state in the union. Interesting perspective....
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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I cannot understand the logic of over inflating numbers. Spend lots of money unnecessarily. Nobel Prize for identifying a treatment/vaccine. Kill the economy.
I can see transparency in reporting actual numbers. Justifies the money spent. Experts doing appropriate work for treatment/vaccine. Economy will adapt.
I cannot understand the logic of under inflating numbers. Don't spend money necessary. Not a priority to find treatment/vaccine. Kill more people. Governments don't want to admit how woefully unprepared they and their health care systems are and how inept they are at dealing with a crisis such as this. Number of deaths are being vastly under-reported. In Italy alone, COVID deaths at home or in nursing homes are not included in the total death count. ONLY in-hospital deaths. They are not the only ones to be counting in such manner. I read a news article coming out of china where a reported compared the number of urns being filled by funeral homes versus the normal death rate + COVID deaths being reported. As you might imagine the discrepancy was staggering.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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