A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Congrats to anyone with a long enough attention span to remember anything about this.
I should title this "I get by with a little help from my friends"
It's coming along, been like a year now if I remember correctly.
Needed the damper hub honed out, Doug hooked me up with Dave, Dave took care of me on the spot. As luck would have it, I caught him resizing a set of 4.0 Jeep connecting rods.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Made some Zippycore plug wires the other day (Taylor, not shown).
Working on pulley alignment and alternator, mostly.
I'm told the intake is on backwards, mostly because the two bosses in front look a little silly. As you can see it's not bolted on, it's just holding the masking tape in place for now.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Decent for cooling, but not enough WP hub stick out left for the fan if I move the WP pulley forward. And not enough material to cut off the crank pulley. Probably work fine with a stock damper, but guess what..... So that shiny March part goes back in the basement.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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The little discontinued Moroso with an AR spacer would almost work.
Notice how the edges are all chipped and banged up. I can't find these new anymore, so I pick up used ones where I find 'em. I've had the same one on the 451 for a long time.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Chopped off .125" and cleaned up the edges.
That's one of the reasons I like the Moroso pulley! The center is solid and you can just cut it to whatever you need. Need to cut off 1/4", even 3/8" no problem....there's plenty of material. But......it's discontinued.
That's my buddy Todd in the picture.
Todd has taught me all kinds of cool $%-+ over the years for which at this point I can never really repay him except to use the info, pass it along and teach others. For openers, the frame connectors and roll bar in my GTX are a collaboration between us but car stuff is just the tip of the iceberg.
Believe me when I tell you: Todd is a technical guy's technical guy.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Faced a buggered bolt hole on the Bridgeport.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Perfecto.
(Now, if I only had the right bolts to hold it on)
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Looks like I don't have to use a Gucci/Powermaster alternator if I don't want to.
Here's a 120 amp Denso from a 1990 Ram that looks like it will probably work. The external regulator it requires doesn't really bother me (and also doesn't necessarily need to be mounted on the firewall/can be hidden).
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Lines up reasonably well, or will, with the right spacer combination.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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That's about it for now.
Most ridiculous observation ever: It sure takes a giant pile of 1/4-20s to dink around with Hemis. If you want to try a few intakes and valve covers out, between the two there are 36 bolts.
Between the 3 intakes and two sets of valve covers i want to try out, all the lengths of everything have to be different.
48 bolts to try 3 intakes. 40 bolts to try two valve covers. I mean, that seems like alot.
They sure didn't spare the 1/4-20s on this engine design.
If you weren't entertained by this thread, I only ask you to please consider what it cost you....
thanks- Rich
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Very cool thread.
I enjoy seeing the minutia of what it takes to put a Hemi together as I have never owned one and probably never will!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Being this far into it, I totally understand why people don't want to mess with them. The mystique adds to the fun. I got around a whole lot of potentially frustrating situations by deciding I didn't care when it got done, and focusing on the next step. I was the same way with my 451.
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures
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Zippy, thanks for the post(s). I guess a 2nd Gen Hemi is not in my future. With the screen name "440Jim", that is OK, LOL. I went through a bunch of small fitting issues with my KB aluminum block, Indy 440-1 headed engine in an A-body Dart. But nowhere near what you have experienced. The lathe and Bridgeport help...
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