Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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04/11/20 12:23 AM
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I honestly had not read about the fuss of cdc cuts. So I searched and read and ran into some eye-opening stuff. Probably the best overview, it does deal with government figures. I am honestly a middle of the road person whom loves Country first this is not intended to be political, yet includes a good overview of what happened with funding, forget the politican stuff it's nice to read what appeard to be factual events. I checked a few refrences against Congress Daily Record and feel it's a good synopses. Anyone inclined might make the long read https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/democrats-misleading-coronavirus-claims/
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: RMCHRGR]
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04/11/20 01:17 AM
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Again, this is a national crisis, not a local one. A national crisis should be met with an appropriate federal response since states may or may not have the resources, manpower, mobilization and coordination ability that the federal government does. What's the point of disputing whether that is true or not? "Drastic times require drastic measures" Wasn't it the governor of FL who decided not to issue a Stay-At-Home order, because (legally) it wasn't in the state's laws? Allowing Spring-Break; WELL AWARE of other states situations & how this was spreading already. Guess he needed the "Go Ahead from Feds" from your "Top Down" governing mentality. So it's rational to assume that States/Cities were correct in not taking "drastic actions" UNTIL told to by the higher ups. You DON'T need any man-power nor resources to issue a General Keep-Distance Limit-Travel Stay-Home DIRECTIVE. Just my observation seemingly looking like NOW Pass-The-Buck-Upward til it stops at the top. This virus didn't start at the TOP (entire US), but rather state wise. Now I see some states taking "their OWN" actions at the 23rd hour. As so typically I guess: It's Reactive rather then Proactive. "I heard my engine making really bad knocking noises, but figured I'd make the 100 mile trip home ok. Now my engine frozen" Holds true across ALL venues.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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04/11/20 08:07 AM
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This is from your article Updated to clarify that cuts to programs intended to fight epidemics globally did not take place. Updated to clarify that the 2018 reductions in CDC efforts referenced were a result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding, not a direct cut by the Trump administration. EDIT This was DIRECT from your post.. zero words changed RMCHRGER....what Mr P Body posted here is true. Are you going to address this? The point you were trying to make with your “facts” in in serious factual error. You messed up. Sure. I never said anything about CDC funding. I was talking about the National Pandemic Response office which was part of the National Security Council. That was why the article mentioned John Bolton. It's original intent was to have a high-level team in place to respond to an imminent threat of an infectious disease outbreak. That office had nothing to do with the CDC. If I had to guess, the article referenced the rumored CDC funding cuts as part of a broader narrative but thankfully it didn't happen. But yeah, I'm done. Please, no applause... I'll admit I tried to stay away for a few days but got drawn back in. Frankly though, it gets tiresome arguing these things. The polarization of our culture is so evident in everything we talk about now, it's pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, including myself. I wish that wasn't the case and we could have more civil discourse without all the finger pointing, questioning of references and raw, entrenched attitudes. We need to find some common ground in this country or it's going to destroy us. You would think suffering through a pandemic would be something we could all unite behind but clearly that's not happening. In a way I kinda miss the days of Walter Cronkite on the evening news, was a much simpler time. Stay safe.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: RMCHRGR]
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04/11/20 08:53 AM
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Well if you aren't part of the solution then you are part of the problem. We should all start with a good look in the mirror.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon! 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: srt]
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04/11/20 10:01 PM
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I think cleanliness and avoiding sick people are the best defense for avoiding the flu. Hmm, sounds familiar. I wonder what % of people get the flu vaccine each year. Less sick = less distribution of virus cells. To be honest I dont even think its the cleanliness.. I'm not saying I am filthy but I think I wash my hands about 2 no more the 3 times a day when I'm working in my shop(about 6 hours a day) but I do get brake cleaner on my hands ALOT if you want to call that washing
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: srt]
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04/11/20 11:30 PM
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Do you avoid people in your shop? Other than my wife I havent even seen a person in about 1 1/2 to 2 months... I did have to go to the dentist for about 30 minutes when I broke 3 teeth out in my shop when he pulled them
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: srt]
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04/11/20 11:31 PM
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There's a meme floating around that basically says: "Before I had kids, I thought I had a great immune system, but it turns out I was just really good at staying away from the type of people who sneeze directly into your eyeballs while telling you a story." There's some truth to that If you can avoid most people during your normal routine, you won't be exposed to much. The normal flu has an R0 of 1.3ish? This virus is at least twice that, so it takes a lot less to catch.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 03:26 AM
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To those that keep thinking this is a Hoax, Scam or really nothing.
It would not take too much for them to find someone in their area that is Covid19 infected and go spend some quality time up close with them. Read them some stories and give them a few get well hugs. Then wait for 5 days and then visit loved ones and give them all hugs. After 14 days come and report how well everyone is doing.
I mean, its a scam, right? Nothing to worry about. Gain some Hurd Immunity.
This week we had a family reunion scheduled. We normally have 60 members show up, about 40 are 55+ and 5 are 85+. And a bunch always go visit cousin Russ. He is a Silver Star awardee from WW2, a Tank Killer. Russ is going to be 102 this year. He lives at home alone and still drives to the store.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: srt]
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04/12/20 07:13 AM
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I have been getting the “Flublok” influenza vaccine for 2 of the last 3 years. It is a recombinant dna vaccine made from the cells of the corn borer caterpillar. No eggs involved in making it. No egg allergy reactions. $60 cash price at Walmart. The one year I skipped getting it I got the Flu while at a wedding in New Orleans. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03694392So far it appears more effective than the old fashioned egg vaccines. The US gov gave a special grant to create Flublok and another dna vaccine because they can be made much faster than the 100 year old egg way, and the strain of virus does not “drift” from a “grows good in humans” virus to a grows good in chickens virus strain. I suspect that Flublock will have a COVID-19 vaccine 60 days after they find out which piece of DNA creates effective human antibodies. Learn about where the nerves are in your deltoid muscle. Before you get your shot draw a little circle where you insist they should stick the needle straight in at a right angle. If they hit the nerve your shoulder will be sore for a long time. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6347325/pdf/0650040.pdfAfter getting your shot go for a long tiring walk that will stimulate your immune system. If you are unlucky and catch Influenza and COVID-19 at the same time the duo team of viruses has an even greater chance of killing you. Same thing with RSV virus or Noro virus. I will go out on a limb and guess that somewhere there is a beneficial virus - one that if you had it at the same time as coronavirus it would help keep you alive.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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04/12/20 07:31 AM
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None of this is difficult...Just like working on our cars or ordering parts or anything else you have to put the research in... Opinions need to be formed via informed message(s)...often it requires several sources and articles to weed out an actual event or what truly happened... If your information merely consists of what is scrolled along the bottom of a screen your only getting what they want you to see...
...FAFO...
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