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The official Coronavirus thread [Re: RMCHRGR] #2758358
04/01/20 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RMCHRGR
Originally Posted by Ramrod39
You do understand that the media in China lies about everything, right?


And?

Maybe consider that the situation here in this country would not be as dire as it is now had there not been persistent, wholesale denial from the very top of our "leadership" about the seriousness of the virus. "We'll be fine, packed churches on Easter!" Right.

We will be lucky to have packed churches next Easter.


And? I'm not following your thinly veiled references. I just can't figure it out, please let us know specifically who you are referring to, we would all like to know............

The official Coronavirus thread [Re: partsforsale] #2758362
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Originally Posted by partsforsale
Originally Posted by RMCHRGR
Originally Posted by Ramrod39
You do understand that the media in China lies about everything, right?


And?

Maybe consider that the situation here in this country would not be as dire as it is now had there not been persistent, wholesale denial from the very top of our "leadership" about the seriousness of the virus. "We'll be fine, packed churches on Easter!" Right.

We will be lucky to have packed churches next Easter.


And? I'm not following your thinly veiled references. I just can't figure it out, please let us know specifically who you are referring to, we would all like to know............


If my references are thinly veiled then why do you need me to spell them out? Not trying to politicize things, just stating facts.

But either way tell me what you think - is my inference true or not?

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2758441
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Drug developed for pet Cats may work against COVID-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-antiviral-cat-coronavirus-key-covid-.html

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Genome sequencing of the novel coronavirus indicates that its protease is nearly identical (96 percent) to the protease in the original SARS virus.

"Of the 306 amino acid residues in the chain that makes the 3CL protease of the "Wuhan' virus, only 12 are different and they are highly similar in properties," the researchers stated in their research proposal.

Another good sign is that a derivative of the same protease inhibitor was recently shown by American veterinary investigators to cure cats of feline infectious peritonitis, a coronavirus-caused condition that is almost always fatal to the animals.

"The key compound affected cures or significant remissions in all the cats," the researchers stated.

"It is very exciting that the drug was effective and tolerated in cats," said Lemieux, while cautioning that it still must be proven and tested in humans.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2758444
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Originally Posted by 360view
Drug developed for pet Cats may work against COVID-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-antiviral-cat-coronavirus-key-covid-.html

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Genome sequencing of the novel coronavirus indicates that its protease is nearly identical (96 percent) to the protease in the original SARS virus.

"Of the 306 amino acid residues in the chain that makes the 3CL protease of the "Wuhan' virus, only 12 are different and they are highly similar in properties," the researchers stated in their research proposal.

Another good sign is that a derivative of the same protease inhibitor was recently shown by American veterinary investigators to cure cats of feline infectious peritonitis, a coronavirus-caused condition that is almost always fatal to the animals.

"The key compound affected cures or significant remissions in all the cats," the researchers stated.

"It is very exciting that the drug was effective and tolerated in cats," said Lemieux, while cautioning that it still must be proven and tested in humans.
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If this holds true how long would it take before being tried on humans
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2758459
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I'm hearing rumbling about a huge transportation bill to get us out of the financial mess the shutdown has partially created.
I worked in public works for 30 years (airports roads and bridges) and it is no surprise the nations infrastructure is neglected. Anytime parasitic systems are added to funding revenue (fuel tax on cars and planes, ticket tax, bridge tolls etc. often times are siphoned into parking lots, buses, trolleys, light rail, walk and bike ways, etc) the system generating the revenue becomes under served. The kind of money being talked about is a "huge shot in the arm" of our hobbled economy, yet while sounding good, will not result in much shovel work. Much will be directed to the activities to get it to construction with planning, environmental, right of way acquisition, design, bidding, and finally construction. These type activities lose a lot of value to provide photo ops, press reports and profits every step of the way prior to the public getting little in return. I cannot understand budgeting and paying for things like re-paving that have a shorter life than the bonds and payment providing the construction funds, especially since the transportation system (and other funding mechanisims as waterand waste water bills, drainage and lighting assements) already paid for their maintenance needs. There needs to be more thought put into how to move forward. I think it's a great time for the public and taxpayer to be educated the things thay ask for like sidewalks and bike lanes, and a plethora of school and social programs need to have their own funding sources. There are experts that need to be consulted and listened to before putting into motion any substantial public investment to get us out of the situation we find ourselves. There are many cracks that need to be looked into every time recommendations are made prior to implementation.
This was not written with a political slant, rather a view of the sad state of the public's resources of money and Infrastructure.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2758508
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It will take at least 90 days to do a Phase I trial that tests just safety in humans.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2758510
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Advice about quitting smoking during COVID-19

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/collections/doi/SC000042/full

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2758532
04/01/20 06:04 PM
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Scientists on many fronts are making progress and will eventually come up with a treatment. Unfortunately, many many people will die horrible suffocating deaths alone until they will be ready for use.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/h...509-4a895be1-80f6-46b0-8812-e2d49d20bebf


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: tboomer] #2758537
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Originally Posted by tboomer
Interesting...srt..I will make my choice soon..I think I will cancel. And doc and paris401..Anymore name calling,you both will be gone. tsk


sorry... it my fault- my apologies to all

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: paris401] #2758539
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It just got even more real in our little territory. Just received confirmation that the cause of death for one of my wife's colleagues is COVID-19. It happened about a week ago. He was off island, had left maybe four days before so he must have contracted it here. It clearly came on hard and fast. The academic community here is small and tight knit so hits hard.

Most of the Caribbean is shut down. BVI, right next door, is on 24 hour curfew through tomorrow,and that might get extended. The last country to have no cases, St. Kitts Nevis, had their first tow case confirmed about a week ago.

The university here has gone to all remote learning for the rest of the semester. That was and still is a big task for my wife and the rest of the faculty. As Dean of the College of Science and Math she (and everyone else) has been working flat out.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #2758555
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Washington States projection model is showing April 19th to be the peak for this area. Seems to me that can only be true for Seattle proper as that was the start, and is densely populated (relatively). Much of the rest of the state is VERY different and I would think it’s curve would differ quite a bit, time wise.

Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2758604
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This was a reply to a previous post: "It seems like an extreme over-reaction is in play. Just how lethal is this to an otherwise healthy person? Is Tom Hanks dead yet?
It was such a good thing, seeing so many enjoying the fruits of this great economy. This media induced panic could destroy it."





Hanks is still alive but 917 Americans died from it today. Don't think it's a media hoax.

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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: ubercuda] #2758608
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Remember when it was said most bills would test positive for cocaine? Why not just snort money?

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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2758613
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I heard some dump As- train engineer tried to launch his train off the tracks to try and damage the
hospital ship out there... do damage was done... the one in Cali
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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2758624
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Was he driving that train after sniffing money?

Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: srt] #2758630
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You know how we're short of ventilators and masks?

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export/


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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: srt] #2758643
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Originally Posted by srt
Was he driving that train after sniffing money?


Casey Jones you better watch your speed... biggrin


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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: skicker] #2758654
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Was he driving that train after sniffing money?


Casey Jones you better watch your speed... biggrin


Switchman’s sleeping, train hundred and two...
On the wrong track and headed for you...

Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2758665
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He was trying to damage the hospital ship.. I myself dont find the joke in it
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2758671
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Washington States projection model is showing April 19th to be the peak for this area. Seems to me that can only be true for Seattle proper as that was the start, and is densely populated (relatively). Much of the rest of the state is VERY different and I would think it’s curve would differ quite a bit, time wise.


When this is all over with, and they either have a cure & vaccine...
Or just decide to ignore everyone dying going forward, like they have with H1N1 after '09...
There will need to be a study done comparing the US per/cap death rate, with Sweden, Brazil & Belarus.
Apparently those countries have decided they will NOT go into lock down, and will let nature take it's course.
They are detaining people coming into their countries... but not shutting down businesses & schools.

If the death rates in those countries don't end up being 10-20x per capita higher than the final US numbers... :
(Remember the US predictions of 100k-200k if we shut down & 2.2Million Dead if we left everything open)
Then the question will have to be asked...
Was it really worth destroying the US economy over Covid-19? work shruggy
That is not a question that can currently be answered... so don't even try. whistling
We won't know the answer until the final analysis, 2 or 3 yrs down the road.

But remember SERS & Swine Flu ultimately never came close to the dire predictions.
Even though swine flu (H1N1) infected 60million... it never killed anywhere near what was predicted in 2009
In fact H1N1 has killed more people this year, than it did in 2009... but no one cares anymore. frown
Because there's a new kid on the block...
One that's finally managed to shut down the country and put the printing presses in overdrive.
A few years from now we will know whether or not it was worth the cost.

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