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/6 in a D150 #2755574
03/24/20 08:18 PM
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Please don't tell me to "junk it and go V8", been down that road before more than once. I have an 85 D150 long bed with the slant and a 727 (YES I know the difference between it and the 904) I was surprised to see that trans in there too) I have an extra slant here that I am thinking of building up to replace the original one-- extra slant is Forged crank, original one is cast. Debating on either a big block- shave to get closer to zero deck-- and RV type regrind of the existing cam, OR maybe a mild turbo. Planned use is to use the truck like a truck, and 3 season daily driver. Not building a race truck. Want to pull my popup in the summer with a bedload of typical camping gear, mostly flat ground. Rear end is 3.21 and I'd like to keep it. Looking for a little more zip. Have a super 6 stack I'd like to use with it too. Lean burn delete, vac advance. No fuel injection planned. Would like to stay carb'd for at least the time being
Thoughts? I'm thinking that if I stay with the slant the money I won't have to spend buying a V8 trans and rebuilding that plus a V8 radiator, motor mounts etc means a little more that I can put into the motor.

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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: volaredon] #2755581
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I hear you, I'm hooping up the 218 flathead in my 51 Plymouth, sure I could put a V8 in it, but when was the last time you saw a hopped up Plymouth flattie?

As for the slant, I say go for it. I have a dual carb intake for my flattie that I am planning on putting EFI on, might think about that as well. I believe Sniper and Holley make a 2bbl TBI system that might fit the Super Six intake? In my case I am going with two single injector throttle bodies being run by a MicroSquirt controller.

Quality build on the slant, conservative cam, sounds ideal for what you want.

Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: Sniper] #2755659
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Easy mods for a \6
Angle grind the head to increase the quench shelf.
318 intake valves.
Beehive springs and retainers.
Standard stuff too.


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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: Dave_J] #2755675
03/25/20 06:28 AM
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Find an early 60's factory adapter plate from a Sweptline truck to mount a small block V8 automatic to a /6 and put an A500 or A518 OD automatic in it. Then you could run a 3.55 or 3.91 in the rear which would make it a lot snappier around town and still have a sensible cruise RPM on the freeway.

A 4 barrel intake and headers will make a very noticeable difference in the butt dyno if you stay naturally aspirated without doing anything else to the engine.

You are displacement limited so you are torque limited by default. A turbo is win win in that department as it will multiply what you already have.

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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: volaredon] #2755697
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Originally Posted by volaredon
Please don't tell me to "junk it and go V8", been down that road before more than once. I have an 85 D150 long bed with the slant and a 727 (YES I know the difference between it and the 904) I was surprised to see that trans in there too) I have an extra slant here that I am thinking of building up to replace the original one-- extra slant is Forged crank, original one is cast. Debating on either a big block- shave to get closer to zero deck-- and RV type regrind of the existing cam, OR maybe a mild turbo. Planned use is to use the truck like a truck, and 3 season daily driver. Not building a race truck. Want to pull my popup in the summer with a bedload of typical camping gear, mostly flat ground. Rear end is 3.21 and I'd like to keep it. Looking for a little more zip. Have a super 6 stack I'd like to use with it too. Lean burn delete, vac advance. No fuel injection planned. Would like to stay carb'd for at least the time being
Thoughts? I'm thinking that if I stay with the slant the money I won't have to spend buying a V8 trans and rebuilding that plus a V8 radiator, motor mounts etc means a little more that I can put into the motor.


If I remember correctly, Mopar never made a 727 in a /6 bell housing. They were installed behind /6 by means of a cast iron adapter. You should already have a V8 transmission then. It also sounds like you're more motivated by practicality and budget. If you're thinking of using a carb'd turbo setup then I really can't see the /6 being cheaper to run or build than a V8 - especially if you already have the transmission. It's going to cost the same for a base rebuild rebuild of either motor.

Outside of practicality and budget, I'm currently in the parts gathering phase to build a supercharged Ford I300 for my F150. A V8 would be cheaper, but not nearly as much fun for me, so I do understand.


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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: Twostick] #2755699
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Another option that might work is a M90 eaton supercharger that was used on 3.8 (231 cu in) engines from 1997-2007 on various gm cars, they are fairly cheap at a wrecking yards, the last one I got was around $75 from the local pic a part. There is a place in Australia that make carb adapters that bolt on to the supercharger if you want to stay carbed. It looks like the way the manifolds are setup is on the slant 6 lends it well to being boosted and as solid as the bottom end is on those motors I think it would take boost quite well.

Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: volaredon] #2755704
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Pre '69 adapter photo courtesy John K:

'69 and later /6 got it's own 727 case.

8111254-sixtotfadapter.jpg

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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: MarkZ] #2756641
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Originally Posted by MarkM


If I remember correctly, Mopar never made a 727 in a /6 bell housing. They were installed behind /6 by means of a cast iron adapter. You should already have a V8 transmission then. It also sounds like you're more motivated by practicality and budget. If you're thinking of using a carb'd turbo setup then I really can't see the /6 being cheaper to run or build than a V8 - especially if you already have the transmission. It's going to cost the same for a base rebuild rebuild of either motor.

Outside of practicality and budget, I'm currently in the parts gathering phase to build a supercharged Ford I300 for my F150. A V8 would be cheaper, but not nearly as much fun for me, so I do understand.



in the 60s this was correct (no /6 727, had to use the V8 727 with adapter plate) but sometimes in the 70s they came out with a /6 specific 727. Have seen several of them. just surprised that it would still have been available that way into the 80s. this truck definitely has a 727, and there is no adapter plate.

part of the reason I'm thinking of keeping things this way is to be "different" Everybody has done the "yank it and throw a V8 in there", including me.... I have a couple of 318s and 360s (Magnums at that) here, and I even have a Motorhome 440 sitting here (would have to pull the trans apart and lose the E brake setup, swap output shafts and output housings on its trans) that I could drop in there, if I wanted to.... but there are other parts I don't have that would be needed that I really don't want to buy..... just "scoping this thing out" at the moment.

Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: volaredon] #2756650
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I built a 68 D100 stepside back in the early 90's and used the original slant six and 3-speed on the tree. I bought a Mr. Gasket shifter to put it on the floor, put an Clifford intake and headers and a 390 Holley and had lots of fun with that truck. I stupidly traded it for a 68 GTS 340 and a 65 Valiant convertible straight up. Never did anything with either one and sold them both and have missed that truck ever since. I found it a few years back and the new owner put a 440 in it and is having fun with it. I wish all these years I would have kept it and really built the six up. Hope you do the same...


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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: Rhinodart] #2756662
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Ive had a couple of /6 trucks in the past before this one... a 79 short bed and a 69 long bed.....and my son now has an 80 stepside with a slant in it... I have Super 6 setups for both his, and my trucks.
definitely wish I could get that 69 back.... got in a scrape with my 87 B-van that I had at the time, and stupidly traded that 69 straight up for the body shop bill on the van..... lot track of the truck about 10 years ago.


I do have another /6 here on a stand (older forged crank version, with solid lifters..... original 85 engine is cast crank, hyd lifters.) I want to play with that spare engine, and "see what I can make it do".
I mostly want this truck "for fun".....

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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: volaredon] #2756674
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I had to work on my uncles farm back in the 60's. His farm truck was a 1962-64 D200 long long bed with a \6 and granny 4 speed and 4.36:1 open rear. By long long bed I mean a 10 foot long stepside. We too loaded over 1 ton + on that truck. I don't think he ever drove it over 40 MPH from the farm into town or to the Coop.


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Re: /6 in a D150 [Re: Dave_J] #2756958
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Why would anyone build up a Slant 6? That's just silly.


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