Rich at idle! Help!
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03/22/20 06:24 PM
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I have a 440 in my ramcharger with a 4150/1050 proform. No matter what I do it runs rich at idle. I set the throttle blades to show the transfer slots just as I should, set the idle mixture screws 1.5 turns. Checked the power valve, opened up the idle bleeds from 73 to 76. It has around 8” vacuum currently. It has 10” if I turn the idle up a little. But no matter what I do it has little to no effect on a/f ratio of 10.8-11.2. I’m at a loss. It cruises around 12.5 and is around 12.5 at full throttle.
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Re: Rich at idle! Help!
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No matter what you do??
Can you stall the motor by turning the mixture screws all the way in?
If so, I’d say the circuits are functioning properly...... and probably need a different calibration.
If it won’t shut off by turning the screws all the way in....... then figure out where it’s getting fuel from when the screws are all the way in.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Rich at idle! Help!
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after shut down for 5 or 10 minutes,does it restart with long crank or blubber- it could be a internal leak like a power valve It starts and drives no problem at all even after sitting. And it does run just fine. I just can’t get the idle to stop running rich.
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Re: Rich at idle! Help!
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If the idle screws don't make much difference then you need to reduce the size of the idle restriction in the metering block. Depending on which carb you have the IFR might be a drilled hole or it might be a jet. It does have jets inside on the metering block on both sides of the power valve, along with holes that appear to be for jets. I bought the carburetor new so those are whatever came on the carb. And I don’t know what those do.
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Re: Rich at idle! Help!
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Ok now that I have made other adjustments I’m not sure what caused this but now the screws are leaning the mixture. What is the most you want to turn these in? I’m at 12.2 now and the screws are about one full turn out. But now it stumbles really bad when I try to take off.
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Re: Rich at idle! Help!
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If the idle screws don't make much difference then you need to reduce the size of the idle restriction in the metering block. Depending on which carb you have the IFR might be a drilled hole or it might be a jet. It does have jets inside on the metering block on both sides of the power valve, along with holes that appear to be for jets. I bought the carburetor new so those are whatever came on the carb. And I don’t know what those do. Those are probably the emulsion jets. The idle feed restrictions will be in the upper corners. Maybe post a picture of your metering block and someone will show you what is what.
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Re: Rich at idle! Help!
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Cam is only 230@050 and 112lsa. 050. 9.8 compression rpm intake. Motor made 490hp/553tq. I did open up the idle air bleeds to 76 from 73. It’s more responsive to adjusting the idle screws. I got it to 12.2 by closing them up to 3/4 or 1 turn out I can’t remeber exactly. But now it stumbles and dies when I try to take off. Next idle try to open up the butterflies some to see if it helps, but doesn’t that uncover too much of the slot? Timing is 18initial 36 total. Maybe re calibrate your Gauge
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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