Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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03/16/20 06:46 PM
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In 2014, I purchased another 71 Barracuda (318 with AC). I bought it from the original owner with 116,540 miles on the odometer. The SPD was 625. In his garage I found a big box of junk that included the original carburetor. Also in that box was the red-black control valve that I believed to be the original.
I just pulled that old bakelite valve out to take another look and take a few pictures of it. The red bottom half is not bakelite, but cast aluminum or pot metal. I looked at some of the new ones listed on Ebay and they look to be all bakelite or plastic. Can someone confirm? David
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Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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03/17/20 08:48 PM
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i was thinking, and ive had alot of NOS parts throughout the years and i cant think of when brackets were included, everything is ala carte. but, these red/black bakolite water valves come with brackets. had me thinking why. best guess is because they were to replace the 1 piece valve used on 1970 cars maybe????
i wish someone could find an original 1970 road test of a e-body with air conditioning to show for sure
or even 1 of those old school videos Thats what I was thinking, in the 75-80 time period I changed a lot of those leaky valves and the bracket was always in the box. Have to dig, have an old nos red valve here, and the metal one off the 1971, and a pair of the moulded heater hoses for a charger in a box here somewhere.
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Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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03/24/20 07:56 PM
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The witness marks sure look like a bakelite valve was on there to me. I had a 1971 318 barracuda that had a metal valve, looked original, but can't say for sure.
I have always been adamant about my 71 Barracuda having a metal valve from the factory. Even though my memory still tells me that to be the case, I can't argue with what 4406bbl noticed on the fender bracket. I did a pencil rubbing on an old red/black bakelite valve and then a side by side comparison with the "witness marks" or footprint left on the bracket.
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Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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03/25/20 11:21 AM
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Here's a screen shot from a 1971 Challenger road test I found on youtube, you can just make out the bakelite valve. video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=zbzrxowPjZwAnd the other pic is of a 1970 383 R/T SE Challenger that just surfaced over in England on another board, it's been off the road since the late 80s according to the guy who found it - looks really original under the hood, '171' master cylinder and all.
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Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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03/25/20 01:31 PM
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Well it won't let me attach the pics Car is 70 barracuda built d ec 69. 383 with air. Never been restored (needs it bad) it has the metal valve on it
1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
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Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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03/25/20 04:32 PM
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Well it won't let me attach the pics Car is 70 barracuda built d ec 69. 383 with air. Never been restored (needs it bad) it has the metal valve on it There is a maximum limit on image size . If so resize them and try again. David
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Re: 1970 E-body a/c water valve
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04/08/20 04:28 PM
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here's the engine compartment shot from a 383 4BBL Challenger (JH23N0) road test in the December 1969 issue of MOTORCADE Great find 6bblgt. And now with the 1970 model year, I wonder if there was a Hamtramck versus LA plant difference with this part.
Last edited by David1971; 04/08/20 04:32 PM.
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