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Looking for information on any FY1 1971 Hemi Challengers. I believe there might of been 4 or 5 built in that color total and that includes USA, Canadian and Export. PM me on Moparts or add information to this thread.


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There was one in the lincoln nebraska area in the 80s... I have the 18 spline trans from that car, has a stripped case where the reverse switch goes in, thin casting, guy did not care about #s back then, or had already sold the car, as you know I bought every hemi 4-speed I could find back then. Guys name was randy but thats all the info I have.

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There was a survivor for sale at Carlisle a couple years ago.


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I believe guy at Carlisle was a guy named Rich that owned it and has had it for sale every year for more money. This Challenger I believe was owned by Ron Adair at one time. It has some options on it that were added.


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Originally Posted by hemicar1971
I believe guy at Carlisle was a guy named Rich that owned it and has had it for sale every year for more money. This Challenger I believe was owned by Ron Adair at one time. It has some options on it that were added.


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This one?

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The one at Carlisle didn't have stripes or rubber bumpers,it supposedly was a 16,000 mile car. It was a 4 speed car,with a black shaker bubble. I seem to remember the car not having a vynal top either. It looked to be original paint that had been buffed out. It had some imperfections in the paint,and a few thin spots. My friend was talking to the owner for a while. I seem to remember the asking price was $239.000.

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Originally Posted by hemicar1971
I believe guy at Carlisle was a guy named Rich that owned it and has had it for sale every year for more money. This Challenger I believe was owned by Ron Adair at one time. It has some options on it that were added.


Not sure Ron had a yellow one.
I know of the butterscotch car and I think there was a black one ( or was or purple ,,,,been years since Ive been that far back into the memory banks )


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Originally Posted by gtx6970
Originally Posted by hemicar1971
I believe guy at Carlisle was a guy named Rich that owned it and has had it for sale every year for more money. This Challenger I believe was owned by Ron Adair at one time. It has some options on it that were added.


Not sure Ron had a yellow one.
I know of the butterscotch car and I think there was a black one ( or was or purple ,,,,been years since Ive been that far back into the memory banks )


The photo I posted was Ron's car - it was butterscotch. As I recall, it had mileage in the low 20,xxx range, & it came in a trade + cash from Bill Drake (NY) for the red '71 Hemicuda convert. that Ron found in MI. - I actually discovered the Hemicuda about a year before Ron found it, although I thought the car was a ghost. FOLLOW-UP on those improbable leads - sometimes they pan out as I discovered!

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I believe it might of been part of a trade with Bill Drake Richs Challenger. The Challenger had a lot of the big options added such as Shaker and a lot of other things. Heard he bought the original Sport Hood off the car also.

One of the FY1 1971 Hemi Challengers I would like to know about is the one from Canada and it is an Automatic, one of the 14 known 1971 Hemi Challenger built with an Automatic. 12 USA 2 Canadian.


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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
Originally Posted by gtx6970
Originally Posted by hemicar1971
I believe guy at Carlisle was a guy named Rich that owned it and has had it for sale every year for more money. This Challenger I believe was owned by Ron Adair at one time. It has some options on it that were added.


Not sure Ron had a yellow one.
I know of the butterscotch car and I think there was a black one ( or was or purple ,,,,been years since Ive been that far back into the memory banks )


The photo I posted was Ron's car - it was butterscotch. As I recall, it had mileage in the low 20,xxx range, & it came in a trade + cash from Bill Drake (NY) for the red '71 Hemicuda convert. that Ron found in MI. - I actually discovered the Hemicuda about a year before Ron found it, although I thought the car was a ghost. FOLLOW-UP on those improbable leads - sometimes they pan out as I discovered!


I was the understanding the Rons butterscotch car was original paint, the one posted above is yellow correct ? Or are we talking about two different cars .
And best I remember the butterscotch car was real low miles, I was thinking low teens and was a VERY early / pre- production car, supposedly a factory mule car
And no shaker that I remember.


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Was the car in question tubbed and raced?

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Originally Posted by mopar4ya
Was the car in question tubbed and raced?


The one from Canada was bought and was raced from day one. It Is a automatic and maybe on the column.

With Ron Adair he has had many E Bodies. His pilot or early build Challenger the EL5 1971 Hemi Challenger was number 124 build number not VIN. I believe it should have a 1970 Wing on the trunk like also because it is an early built Challenger. I have a copy of the Fender Tag for the EL5 and I believe it is a N96 Challenger. N96 Hemi Challengers are quite common when it come to 1971 Hemi Challengers close to 50% were built with N96.Ron Adair might of had two other 1971 Hemi Challenger both FY1. I have seen pictures of the EL5 and FY1 together and there was also another FY1 with different option in another picture but like I said before he loaded up the one he sold to Drake.


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Originally Posted by hemicar1971
Originally Posted by mopar4ya
Was the car in question tubbed and raced?




With Ron Adair he has had many E Bodies. His pilot or early build Challenger the EL5 1971 Hemi Challenger was number 124 build number not VIN. I believe it should have a 1970 Wing on the trunk like also because it is an early built Challenger. I have a copy of the Fender Tag for the EL5 and I believe it is a N96 Challenger. N96 Hemi Challengers are quite common when it come to 1971 Hemi Challengers close to 50% were built with N96.Ron Adair might of had two other 1971 Hemi Challenger both FY1. I have seen pictures of the EL5 and FY1 together and there was also another FY1 with different option in another picture but like I said before he loaded up the one he sold to Drake.


Ok, thanks. Been a while since I saw the car ,, ,wasnt 100% sure of shaker or not . Im pretty sure Greg sold it after Rons passing,,,,,,, could be wrong though.!!!!!

I am pretty sure he also had a black Hemi challenger ( don't remember if it was a 70 or 71 ) ,
And I was not aware of a FY1 car other than the 1970 Charger RT/SE

I was invited to his place a few times but never took him up on it.
Friends of mine did go and they said the place was impressive, Boxes and boxes of NOS parts were everywhere . Rows of complete Hemi engines lined one long shop wall.


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Originally Posted by hemicar1971
Originally Posted by mopar4ya
Was the car in question tubbed and raced?


The one from Canada was bought and was raced from day one. It Is a automatic and maybe on the column.

With Ron Adair he has had many E Bodies. His pilot or early build Challenger the EL5 1971 Hemi Challenger was number 124 build number not VIN. I believe it should have a 1970 Wing on the trunk like also because it is an early built Challenger. I have a copy of the Fender Tag for the EL5 and I believe it is a N96 Challenger. N96 Hemi Challengers are quite common when it come to 1971 Hemi Challengers close to 50% were built with N96.Ron Adair might of had two other 1971 Hemi Challenger both FY1. I have seen pictures of the EL5 and FY1 together and there was also another FY1 with different option in another picture but like I said before he loaded up the one he sold to Drake.


If the car in question was for sale in Hemmings some time in the late 80's, I might know where it is.

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The Canadian Challenger was raced but I do not know or have ever heard of it been Chassied. There is little known of the Challenger since the late 70s early 80s .These car seem to find a spot in a garage and stay there. I got one that has done a lot of that.


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The EL5 71 Hemi Challenger is a shaker car with 70 wing and other odd parts. It's final build appears to be a spring car according to the date codes on it's collective parts and documents. As known at the moment - The car was built in 2 different configurations - One in the spring and one in the fall. Documentation not speculation. The Sheetmetal needs further examination at this point as the unibody is a 1970 unibody. The stamped number on the cowl/core support is "B0 000124." Those numbers want to be interpreted as a 1970 Challenger unibody for the 1970 model year built before the actual model year of 1970 because 1970 production cars have a sequence # that would read "B0 100124"
Isn't that odd? popcorn
How many other cars have a stamped body sequence # that begins with a "0" and the wrong model year?
What is this car? Is is a reasonable conclusion to say it was a pre-production 1970 Challenger before it became the 1st 1971 Hemi Challenger?
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While it had a shaker when it left the gates at Chrysler the N96 is not on the tag.
It's use by Chrysler is still unknown but it is the 1st 1971 Hemi Challenger built.
But it's not yellow
The FY1 yellow Challenger owned by "Rich" who want's a lot of money for it is the car Bill Drake angel traded to Ron Adair angel in the hemi cuda convertible deal.
The story of that deal as told by Ron makes for a good campfire. beer

Bill had that car for years and it was a legend here as it would outrun anything including my car which was very fast as well, just not that fast... Bill and i used to have rolling acceleration contests and it was fun to hear that hemi roar and PULL away. RIP Bill
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Richey Rich still has the car

The other yellow 71 Hemi Challenger in the Ron Adair herd is a color change

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the 1971 "pilot" /6 Barracuda's body numbers are "B0 000114"

the 000114 is the "CAR#" (AKA JOB#) for the 1971 model year

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All these pilot E Bodies I believe have the B0 and the build number. Lots of the pilots have the CAR and I believe all the body parts are 1970.
Adairs pilot EL5 has N96 on the both pictures I have of the fender tag dating back to around the mid 80s.

I knew Richs Challenger was once owned by Adair and is a four speed just did not know who owned it first and knew it was part of the Convertible sale.

Ron Fellwock also owned a FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger four speed.

I am looking for the FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger that is an Automatic and was a race car from Day one. I have a lead but that lead is likely not the car.


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What info do you need from the car in question ? I might have a lead for you.

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Nother couple pics from the Adair stable. (RIP Ron - he was always cool to me - as was Greg...............)

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