1971 FY1 Hemi Challengers

Looking for information on any FY1 1971 Hemi Challengers. I believe there might of been 4 or 5 built in that color total and that includes USA, Canadian and Export. PM me on Moparts or add information to this thread.

There was one in the lincoln nebraska area in the 80s... I have the 18 spline trans from that car, has a stripped case where the reverse switch goes in, thin casting, guy did not care about #s back then, or had already sold the car, as you know I bought every hemi 4-speed I could find back then. Guys name was randy but thats all the info I have.

There was a survivor for sale at Carlisle a couple years ago.

I believe guy at Carlisle was a guy named Rich that owned it and has had it for sale every year for more money. This Challenger I believe was owned by Ron Adair at one time. It has some options on it that were added.

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This one?

The one at Carlisle didn't have stripes or rubber bumpers,it supposedly was a 16,000 mile car. It was a 4 speed car,with a black shaker bubble. I seem to remember the car not having a vynal top either. It looked to be original paint that had been buffed out. It had some imperfections in the paint,and a few thin spots. My friend was talking to the owner for a while. I seem to remember the asking price was $239.000.

Not sure Ron had a yellow one.
I know of the butterscotch car and I think there was a black one ( or was or purple ,,,,been years since Ive been that far back into the memory banks )

The photo I posted was Ron's car - it was butterscotch. As I recall, it had mileage in the low 20,xxx range, & it came in a trade + cash from Bill Drake (NY) for the red '71 Hemicuda convert. that Ron found in MI. - I actually discovered the Hemicuda about a year before Ron found it, although I thought the car was a ghost. FOLLOW-UP on those improbable leads - sometimes they pan out as I discovered!

I believe it might of been part of a trade with Bill Drake Richs Challenger. The Challenger had a lot of the big options added such as Shaker and a lot of other things. Heard he bought the original Sport Hood off the car also.

One of the FY1 1971 Hemi Challengers I would like to know about is the one from Canada and it is an Automatic, one of the 14 known 1971 Hemi Challenger built with an Automatic. 12 USA 2 Canadian.

I was the understanding the Rons butterscotch car was original paint, the one posted above is yellow correct ? Or are we talking about two different cars .
And best I remember the butterscotch car was real low miles, I was thinking low teens and was a VERY early / pre- production car, supposedly a factory mule car
And no shaker that I remember.

Was the car in question tubbed and raced?

The one from Canada was bought and was raced from day one. It Is a automatic and maybe on the column.

With Ron Adair he has had many E Bodies. His pilot or early build Challenger the EL5 1971 Hemi Challenger was number 124 build number not VIN. I believe it should have a 1970 Wing on the trunk like also because it is an early built Challenger. I have a copy of the Fender Tag for the EL5 and I believe it is a N96 Challenger. N96 Hemi Challengers are quite common when it come to 1971 Hemi Challengers close to 50% were built with N96.Ron Adair might of had two other 1971 Hemi Challenger both FY1. I have seen pictures of the EL5 and FY1 together and there was also another FY1 with different option in another picture but like I said before he loaded up the one he sold to Drake.

Ok, thanks. Been a while since I saw the car ,, ,wasnt 100% sure of shaker or not . Im pretty sure Greg sold it after Rons passing,,,,,,, could be wrong though.!!!!!

I am pretty sure he also had a black Hemi challenger ( don't remember if it was a 70 or 71 ) ,
And I was not aware of a FY1 car other than the 1970 Charger RT/SE

I was invited to his place a few times but never took him up on it.
Friends of mine did go and they said the place was impressive, Boxes and boxes of NOS parts were everywhere . Rows of complete Hemi engines lined one long shop wall.

If the car in question was for sale in Hemmings some time in the late 80's, I might know where it is.

The Canadian Challenger was raced but I do not know or have ever heard of it been Chassied. There is little known of the Challenger since the late 70s early 80s .These car seem to find a spot in a garage and stay there. I got one that has done a lot of that.

The EL5 71 Hemi Challenger is a shaker car with 70 wing and other odd parts. It's final build appears to be a spring car according to the date codes on it's collective parts and documents. As known at the moment - The car was built in 2 different configurations - One in the spring and one in the fall. Documentation not speculation. The Sheetmetal needs further examination at this point as the unibody is a 1970 unibody. The stamped number on the cowl/core support is "B0 000124." Those numbers want to be interpreted as a 1970 Challenger unibody for the 1970 model year built before the actual model year of 1970 because 1970 production cars have a sequence # that would read "B0 100124"
Isn't that odd?
How many other cars have a stamped body sequence # that begins with a "0" and the wrong model year?
What is this car? Is is a reasonable conclusion to say it was a pre-production 1970 Challenger before it became the 1st 1971 Hemi Challenger?

While it had a shaker when it left the gates at Chrysler the N96 is not on the tag.
It's use by Chrysler is still unknown but it is the 1st 1971 Hemi Challenger built.
But it's not yellow
The FY1 yellow Challenger owned by "Rich" who want's a lot of money for it is the car Bill Drake traded to Ron Adair in the hemi cuda convertible deal.
The story of that deal as told by Ron makes for a good campfire.

Bill had that car for years and it was a legend here as it would outrun anything including my car which was very fast as well, just not that fast... Bill and i used to have rolling acceleration contests and it was fun to hear that hemi roar and PULL away. RIP Bill

Richey Rich still has the car

The other yellow 71 Hemi Challenger in the Ron Adair herd is a color change

the 1971 "pilot" /6 Barracuda's body numbers are "B0 000114"

the 000114 is the "CAR#" (AKA JOB#) for the 1971 model year

All these pilot E Bodies I believe have the B0 and the build number. Lots of the pilots have the CAR and I believe all the body parts are 1970.
Adairs pilot EL5 has N96 on the both pictures I have of the fender tag dating back to around the mid 80s.

I knew Richs Challenger was once owned by Adair and is a four speed just did not know who owned it first and knew it was part of the Convertible sale.

Ron Fellwock also owned a FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger four speed.

I am looking for the FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger that is an Automatic and was a race car from Day one. I have a lead but that lead is likely not the car.

What info do you need from the car in question ? I might have a lead for you.

Nother couple pics from the Adair stable. (RIP Ron - he was always cool to me - as was Greg...............)

Very cool to see and read about some of these cars. Most of the cars like this are put away in someone's collection and never see the light of day.

Not to sidetrack the OP but a friend had a '71 Hemi, 4 spd. in B5, N96, white vinyl top and stripes, black houndstooth interior, console-mounted tape deck, & luggage rack. Engine had been built by Barnett Racing with 6k miles on the clock and was bad to the bone. Bought from original owner w/ 12k miles on it. Also had a '71 Hemicuda auto at the same time and ran across the Challenger by accident. This was the late '70s. Wound up trading the Challenger less than a year later to a guy in Stone Mountain, GA (had a body shop or speed shop?) that wanted the drivetrain for his dragster. Unknown what became of the body (probably scrapped) although I would love to know. If I can catch up with him, I'll try to remember to ask if he has anything from either car with a VIN #.



Tim

I collect this kind of information on 1971 Hemi E Bodies. One person that contacted me has information and other stuff on the FY1 Automatic 1971 Hemi Challenger and wanted to talk to the owner of it if it even exists. Any information on these 1971 Hemi E Bodies I put into folders and it is true that these cars seem to disappear into collections and are never seen again. I guess I am one of those people at times because I have a 1971 Hemi Challenger that has not come out to play in a few years but it is not a trailer queen, ex Drag Car and I have no plans on restoring it to OEM, would rather pound it when it comes out or goes to the drag strip. I also am helping a person with a 1971 Hemi Cuda that is a Pro Stock car for 1972 and it will not be restored either to OEM and when done will be at the drag strip likely running a big Hemi going 9.0s.

I also keep information on blocks and transmission from 1971 Hemi Cars like a few others do on here like Dan and Barry etc and we try to put these pieces back with the original Vehicle. Nothing like getting some thing back that belongs with your car and I finally after about 30 years of trying to buy the Hemi out of my Challenger got my original motor back for my 1971 Hemi Challenger.

[quote=hemicar1971]All these pilot E Bodies I believe have the B0 and the build number. Lots of the pilots have the CAR and I believe all the body parts are 1970.
Adairs pilot EL5 has N96 on the both pictures I have of the fender tag dating back to around the mid 80s.

I knew Richs Challenger was once owned by Adair and is a four speed just did not know who owned it first and knew it was part of the Convertible sale.

Ron Fellwock also owned a FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger four speed.

I am looking for the FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger that is an Automatic and was a race car from Day one. I have a lead but that lead is likely not the c


Sorry, not the best images, but you get the idea; Ron Fellwocks car. According to the 72 Dealers handbook, FY1 was the least popular High Impact color for 71....

That's aggregate, for all Challengers. Chances are it's not the rarest color for R/Ts.

When it comes to colors on Cudas and RT Challengers with Hemis the color percentages do change quite a bit because most of the Hemi E Bodies are ordered vehicles and the colors are a person preference. But even saying that the Cuda and Challenger Brochure had an effect on the person that ordered the car. FE5 and EV2 numbers of Hemi E Bodies are 3 to 1 in favor of the Cudas over the Dodges and what color was on the Cuda on the Brochure. If looking at the total of each being built is should be about a little under 2 to 1 being built. FC7 is almost even in numbers and should be a higher number for Cudas because more 1971 Hemi Cudas were built than 1971 Hemi Challengers bit there was a FC7 Challenger on the 1971 Challenger Brochure..

EL5 is a very unpopular color on any 1971 Hemi E Body and Adairs cars color was picked by the factory not by a person that ordered the Challenger. There are other very low numbers for colors on 1971 Hemi Challengers much lower than what is known to of being built in FY1. This is personal choice in color for these cars. In 1971 on a Hemi Cuda White was a color that was chosen to be a corporate build color for a Super Stock Race Team so those numbers are a little out of the norm if you toss in that there were maybe 3 or 4 teams that might of had cars built by the factory. 3 or 4 more 1971 Hemi Cudas being built for a race team sends the percentages out to lunch .when there were only 123 known 1971 Hemi Cudas built. With a smaller build total percentage it makes it easy to miss read numbers.

FY1 was NOT available for the full 1971 model year - it was a late addition - so its apparent lower numbers aren't a fair comparison to address its popularity
are you sure the subject HEMI Challenger R/T is FY1 "lemon twist"? it is 3-weeks earlier than the first FY1 e-body I have data on when was FY1 re-introduced?

the CANADS spec. 1971 HEMI Challenger R/Ts:
JS23R1B211139 to Crane Valley, Saskatchewan - HEMI automatic, "lemon twist" (I have this car in my notes as "citron yella") * NO DANA w/SHAKER

JS23R1B144517 to Montreal, Quebec - HEMI 4-speed w/3.54s, FC7 - "plum-crazy w/white" interior * NO SHAKER
JS23R1B242274 to Laval, Quebec - HEMI 4-speed w/4.10s, FJ6 - "green-go w/black" interior * SHAKER

JS23R1B251607 to Belleville, Ontario - HEMI "light green metallic w/black" interior (per the FAKE fender tag) * originally GF7 auto NO DANA & NO SHAKER
JS23R1B??????? to Rexdale, Ontario - HEMI 4-speed, FC7 - "plum-crazy w/white" interior * SHAKER

anyone have corrections/additions to the above list? anyone have the fifth VIN for the other HEMI R/T?

top 5 colors for '71 Challenger R/T (JS): FC7, EV2, GB5, FJ6, GY3
top 5 colors for '71 Challenger (JH): FC7, GB5, GF7, EV2, FE5

I think this is the FY1 HEMI R/T that has been in the car corral at Carlisle - JS23R1B383597

someone posted these pics of a FY1 HEMI R/T at the 1982 and/or 1985 Car Craft Nationals in Illinois

& I believe this is the color changed HEMI R/T that Ron Adair had - it was originally GB5

FY1 for '71 was available starting September 14, 1970 so about 6 weeks into production.

Dan
On your list.... Belleville car was a factory automatic 8 3/4, no stripe from new as documented by pictures from new and confirmed by the original lady owner who still lives there.
Another picture that I have had from early 90's, of Fellwocks JS23R1B.

I will post some information on the Canadian 1971 Hemi Challenger. I have known about all of them even the one that is missing off the list because the owner deleted the VIN off the Canadian Hemi Owners list before it was published in the late 1970s, that owner was me.

First one sold new in Montreal, Canada, Hemi, four speed, 354 dana FC7 purple- white interior, white stripe, NON SHAKER. Challenger went from Quebec to Ontario to Manitoba to Alberta then into the USA and has been for sale for a few years off and on. It is now in MCG this month.

Second one sold new in Crane Valley, Saskatchewan, Hemi, automatic on the Column, 8 3/4 Color is Yellow I have picture when new, white interior, black stripe, SHAKER. Challenger went from Saskatchewan to Alberta, unknown but could have a lead but need more leads.
Looking to see the fender tag to confirm what options it has or does not and to confirm what Yellow.

Third one, sold new in Laval, Quebec, Hemi, four speed, 410 dana, Go Green, black interior, black stripe, SHAKER, Challenger was sold into Kentucky years ago.

Forth one, sold new in Belleville, Ontario, automatic 8 3/4 Dark Green, Black Interior, NON SHAKER, Car spent all of its life in Ontario,Canada last owned by known Hemi builder that kept cutting it up to race it and became unsafe . It now appears as a Hemi four speed dana black stripe, wing shaker. I have pictures of the Challenger new given to me by the original lady that bought the Challenger new from Campbellford Chrysler, Cambellford, Ontario.
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Fifth one, sold new at Raceway Plymouth Chrysler, Rexdale, Ontario. Hemi, four speed, Dana 456, Purple, white interior, SHAKER. Car is still in my garage but in race colors.

3 four speeds
2 automatics

Top five colors I have on 1971 Hemi Challenger are

TX9 FC7 GB5 FE5 EV2 Remember these colors will differ from the norm because these are sold vehicles and owners picked the colors.

Might of got a real good lead on this 1971 Hemi Challenger, sure hope it is a good one and will supply a lot of answers to all the question I have and others have. Really would like to fill in the blanks on this Challenger in the file I have on the car. Like everything else in life it will take a while to get information.

Following to see if I might be able to contribute ... but I don't have anything at this time (sorry). Got a little confused over the former "Ron" (Adair and Fellwock) cars. Is the GB5 color change car the former Adair car?? I've only seen this car with a chrome front bumper. A couple of the pics referred to as being the former Adair car have a Elastomeric front bumper on it. Same car different bumpers? And the other "Ron" car, the Fellwock car ... I'm not really sure which car you guys are referring to as having been Fellwock's?? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks!!

The car that mccannix post a picture of is Ron Fellwocks car. The car that went from Drake to Adair and now owned by Rich is also a yellow Challenger and I believe has the shaker added an maybe some other options louver wing would have to look up what I have on the Challenger to be 100% correct. Dan refers to one of the Adair Challenger that had a color change. Adairs Pilot Challenger was EL5 and likely the only one in that color but I still need a few more 1971 Hemi Challengers to complete my VIN chase on these 1971 Hemi Challengers.

The FY1 1971 Hemi Challenger has been located.. It is in a huge collection of Performance Cars and has been restored. Can not get to it till summer since it is on a hoist and other cars are below and in front of it. .