Re: heads
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01/31/20 10:48 PM
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jwb123
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Built several engines with ported 906, Indy heads 440-1, and EZ heads, my personal race engine has the Edelbrock Victor Jr. heads, mainly because Russ told me one time I could never build a 9 second car without buying his parts. Well my car has went 9.64, and has no Indy parts on it. I have never ran B-1 heads, I hear they are the best. The Indy 440-1 I believe will make more power than the Edelbrock victor Jr. My engine with the Victor Jr's made 720 HP @ 512 CID. I have seen and built several 440 based engines over 800HP, all had Indy heads. Heads are the biggest factor in making HP, but not the only thing, when you want to go over 700HP you have to have a lot of ducks in a row for it all to work. You asked, just my opinion. Lots of guys on here most likely know more than me.
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Re: heads
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01/31/20 11:49 PM
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What heads work good on the 440
To do what? Pull a milk truck? Land speed record?
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Re: heads
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02/01/20 10:16 AM
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Jeremiah
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The trans am is not a race car just a street car. Not a power machine like yours. Haven’t had it to the track yet as it kept burning up torque converters went though two converters in 400km not fun or cheep. But tci guaranteed that last transmission and torque converter. They made me a custom torque converter and trans this time. I would highly recommend them while they where not quick they didn’t leave me high and dry and warranted there product. The small Chevy rear end would never hold up to racing a Mopar lol You should have your tools *and* computer taken away. I hope your dad gets better soon. Clearly he is the brains of your operation lol. Thanks for trolling our little community! 10 to 1 that 650hp ls makes 350rwhp too!
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Re: heads
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02/01/20 02:07 PM
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Cab_Burge
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On your deal I would choose the 440 Source heads for your motor, also if your up for changing the cam get one with both more lift and duration at .050 lifter rise and learn how to degree it Does the car have power brakes? If so be careful on the cam selection, stay away from close lobe separation angle cams and any grind that has more than 245 degrees at .050 on a 110 lobe separation angle or tighter like 108 I was not aware that Pontiac had use the LS motors in any of their production T/A cars But I'm not a GM type of guy other than using them for beating up at the track
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 02/01/20 02:07 PM.
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: heads
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02/01/20 02:56 PM
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LaRoy Engines
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Does anyone on here know what they are talking about? What heads work good on the 440. And I don’t want your guesses. I am talking about facts real world knowledge. I got my ls to 650 hp without even really trying. That kind of real knowledge. I have heard the trickflow 240 heads work good anyone had any luck with these. I do love the mopars just seems no one is giving facts. I think it's great you want to do something for your dad who's had a stroke. 650 horsepower might not be the nicest thing you could do for him. But if you wish to go there, I would start with this publication. Some great facts for you there. AndyF Mopar book on engines.
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Re: heads
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02/01/20 04:06 PM
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Cab_Burge
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All 1969 Mopar cars had wiring issues, all of them One of the main issues was the alternator feed wire going through the firewall bulkhead connector and the inner nuts getting loose on the amp gauge, loose = high resistance which results in meltdowns and fires Clean the connectors, both sides, and both wiring harnesses and clean and tighten the amp meter connections. Use non conducting grease on the plug in connections to stop corrosion also I wonder how my 335 HP 383 4 sped in my 1969 Dart GTS would do against your T/A It is down on power a little(380 HP) due to me making it street and pump gas friendly for a friend I sold it to back in 2002 before moving up here to Oregon, he sold it back to me in 2007. I have another motor in the shop that would wake that rascal up a little,750+ HP on 92 octane pump swill That would be a exercise in futility due to the little tires on the back of that car
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: heads
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02/01/20 06:33 PM
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The most important thing to learn is how to build torque where your dad will drive it. Put a 600 hp cam in a 440 and it will be a pig till WAY PAST the fun driving rpm. Personally i would shoot for max torque from 2500 to 4000 rpm and don't worry about hp. It is a lot more fun to drive a car that will pin you in the seat at 2500 rpm than one you have to rev the pee out of. Things that improve torque are maximizing compression and timing, getting the jetting right, exhaust improvements, rear gear change( not too much though!) And as far as cylinder heads go, some standard port aftermarket heads with bowl work and a closed combustion chamber. Getting the piston to head distance to .050 or a touch less adds torque.
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Re: heads
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02/01/20 08:07 PM
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I know protocol is "be polite", but... don't you have squirrel radar that beeps when someone posts what he wrote?
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