Re: 64 WINDOW STICKER
[Re: stumpy]
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01/22/20 12:25 PM
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Mr.Govier doesn't have the best reputation around here. Really don't hear near as much about him anymore. Like many of us he may be dealing with age and could have health issues. On the Barrett-Jackson broadcast I thought they mentioned a certification letter on a Mopar form someone I had not heard of before. Anybody know who I might be talking about. I think the first name was Mike but I could be way off.
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Re: 64 WINDOW STICKER
[Re: 340Cuda]
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01/22/20 01:00 PM
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Mr.Govier doesn't have the best reputation around here. Really don't hear near as much about him anymore. Like many of us he may be dealing with age and could have health issues. On the Barrett-Jackson broadcast I thought they mentioned a certification letter on a Mopar form someone I had not heard of before. Anybody know who I might be talking about. I think the first name was Mike but I could be way off. Dave Wise seems to be the guru these days as far as blessing Mopars.
Check out my car show and cruise photo albums here: Show PicsSeeking info on a Mr Norms sold T/A VIN JH23J0B308737. Does it still exist?
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Re: 64 WINDOW STICKER
[Re: Mastershake340]
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01/23/20 10:57 AM
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Dave Wise seems to be the guru these days as far as blessing Mopars. I am sure that is who it was. He is mentioned several places on the Barrett-Jackson website. He appears to be the managing partner of this company: https://www.mmcdetroit.com/They do vehicle inspections, provide auction assistance and sell some collector guides.
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Re: 64 WINDOW STICKER
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01/23/20 05:49 PM
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Yup, that's him...he is mentioned from time to time on Grayard Carz, about his reference books.
Plymouth Makes It!
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Re: 64 WINDOW STICKER
[Re: RoadRunnerLuva]
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01/25/20 03:49 PM
01/25/20 03:49 PM
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One problem with 'made up' documentation is that it rarely gets called out when a car is for sale.
An obvious fake in this auction - https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger-RARE/124027400664?hash=item1ce09bf1d8:g:AgQAAOSwGrBeCLVt
But the seller does not mention it at all.........
As far as self proclaimed 'gurus' & 'certified' go, when they make bogus items for people as a service, they only hurt the hobby.
They hurt their own reputations as well, especially when they 'certify' cars that have bogus documentation they made up out of thin air.
Any cars history & reputation suffer when any bogus documentation item is introduced.
EDITED above to fix link.
Last edited by Alaskan_TA; 01/25/20 05:19 PM. Reason: Wrong link in original post.
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Re: 64 WINDOW STICKER
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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01/25/20 05:15 PM
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One problem with 'made up' documentation is that it rarely gets called out when a car is for sale. An obvious fake in this auction - https://www.facebook.com/groups/115860555189125/But the seller does not mention it at all......... As far as self proclaimed 'gurus' & 'certified' go, when they make bogus items for people as a service, they only hurt the hobby. They hurt their own reputations as well, especially when they 'certify' cars that have bogus documentation they made up out of thin air. Any cars history & reputation suffer when any bogus documentation item is introduced. Barry your link went to a FB site with a plane on it but not further?? I have had window stickers made a few times and like to see them on the window when the cars are shown. I would never put it out there as original and since it's laminated surely doesn't look original. Many people comment about it and the first thing out my mouth is that it's a REPRODUCTION that you can have made up now a days. Ron
Last edited by RJS; 01/25/20 05:16 PM.
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