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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27318
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Thanks Bob, yours is looking great. Can't wait to see it all done. Cold here for Easter too.

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Some pics of my 62 Galaxie. The roof has about 10 passes with rustoleum pro and a 1500 wet sand, no polish. The front clip is 6 coats and the drivers side 4. Been to cold and wet to do anything but take pictures. Oh yeah, the passenger "before" side pic.

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Need a class in remedial picture posting.

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Drivers side

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Need a class in remedial picture posting.

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lol host the pics online and use the [img][/img] tags to post them here

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bob what color is that? im using brightside fire red and its a very bright red, yours seems to be a lil darker like i had wanted..




Rustoleum Regal Red. I wanted a darker red, so I went with this one.

Bob

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has anyone used this method with striping or any graphics? i want to mask some stuff off but im worried that having to do so many layers will have the paint harden over the masking and peel up the paint when im done. does this sound right, or any way around this?


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Any paint can fade, but some colors, like red, will fade quicker than others. If you're sure to keep up with regular waxing/polishing, especially in the months of the year when the sun is at it's strongest, your color should stay looking good for a long time. Eventually a good buffing is a good idea to take off the dull oxidized paint, or just roll on another layer.




It's true...Rustoleum or any other Alkyd paint will fade eventually if you don't do any up keep on it. Modern OEM finishes can sit outside for years untouched and still look good. These can't. Eventually it will oxidize. This paint technology dates back to the 1920s, and was used as a factory finish at least into the 1960s. Same thing happened to cars back then . If you keep a coat of wax on it, everything will be fine. Even if it does get oxidized really bad, it's still no big deal. Just polish it with a cleaner and wax it. I've brought back several OEM paint jobs from the dead that were oxidized so bad you could use them for a chalkboard, but they came out pretty nice. Just wax it several times a year and don't worry about it . Or, park it in the shade




Thanks for everyone's answers- Im glad to hear I can keep it looking good. I dont mind having to polish it a couple times a year and most times it will be under my carport.

I didnt get to work on the car over the easter weekend but did test a little something- Clay bar. I had one I bought to try on my truck and it was basically wasted money for that but I never threw it out. I took it to the car after a new layer of paint had hardened and rubbed it for a few minutes and it took alot of the settled garbage off the paint and left it much smoother. still some stuff that needed to be sanded but I am out under a carport doing my paint. If you are painting a car in a garage and dont have a problem with dust/dirt or orange peel, I could see the clay bar being helpful. Anyone else tried one?

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Andyyoucankeepit- I asked a similar question on page 71 and here is the response i got- Hope it helps

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I did my truck in a green/green two tone, and I found out the hard way about over adhesion and paint removal. The cure I found was to pull the tape on a 45* bias while wiping the end with a spirit soaked rag. This softens the adhesive and lets the tape loose. Work slowly and the tape should come off with no trouble.

Hope this helps out. It just takes patience, but it's worth it.




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The miata and the red truck look great!

I'm almost done with the body work on my project, where is the best place to get some black interlux brightside online? I've read all the threads; ebay and marine shops seem to be the norm right? Anyone buy from this ebay guy?

All of the marine shops around here(atlanta) don't seem to have any black.

Thanks.

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Man, I have the same problem! It looks like there is something in the paint causing little dirt specks to show up in the paint when it is dried. I guessthe dirtin the air must settle. Anyone have this same problem? I guess so. Does the clay bar help this? I am almost satisfied with my red Brightside coat( without sanding/polishing) except for the apparent dirt specks. Any good articles on sanding? I have a ton of questions on wet vs dry sanding when using this roller method.

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I've sprayed cars in a booth and gotten those specks. I even wet the floor down with water, used an elaborate filter system in a downdraft paint booth and wore a spacesuit looking paint uniform and washed my airhose to keep as much trash out of the air as possible, and still got those dirt specks in there. You may be able to buff them out, and maybe not.

Try wet sanding and see if they go away. The trick to wet sanding is to realize you're only trying to take off a miniscule amount of paint in order to make the surface flatter. If you hear a squeak, you've got dirt in there and it's time to rinse your paper. It takes a few times to master it. A squeegie is a valuable tool also.

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Here are my final results of 2 coats of Brightside. I'm reassembling the car and all its trim now, so I hope this paint job lasts.

Still needs a final sanding and polish but I'm going to let it cure for a while first. Total cost was $100 for paint, and $50 for supplies.











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Wow guys,

These results are amazing. Have read the thread all the way through and it looks like there is only one question I have-

Is there any way at all to do metallics? I realize the concerns over the particles settling properly and everything but I would still like to try.

Is there any place that sells metallic additives? I would really like to experiment by seeing if an additive could make the lighter grey into a silver.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
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I'd post a pic, but the results are hard to see in them.
I used a metallic rattle can from about 2 ft back between every second layer, working with the original TremClad method of 2 coats, wetsand, 2 coats.
I applied 1 coat, sprayed lightly from a distance, not enough to add the silver color, just heavy enough to let the metallic show, then applied the second coat. I admit it's a bit uneven in spots, but overall I was happy with the results.
Try to find an enamel metallic spray rather than a lacquer base. I used a silver metallic with green.
I did post a couple of pics on pg 71 in reply to Radio Joe's question about two tone work.


I want to die like my Grampa, peacefully, in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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Nice stripe work. I like the grey/black combo.


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Beautiful Mustang. How much paint did it take in total?

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Beautiful Mustang. How much paint did it take in total?




About a half a quart of black for the stripes.

About a quart of the grey - but I decided the steel grey, which is the darkest available grey from Interlux, was way too light. so I mixed about half a quart of black with about a quart and a quarter of grey.

Three quarts total with about half a quart of dark grey mixture left over.

That was only 2 coats with the second coat thinned. It covered up all my scratches from my lazy machine sanding.

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I tried to do a metallic spray can job but I found impossible to keep a wet edge so the job was still mottled.

Anyway, went to the home depot and found that they had the Rustoleum paint in aluminum- just what I wanted.

I'll post pictures when I get results.

-Nathan

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I didn't do a spray can job as such, I just applied enough between layers of TremClad to add the sparkle without adding any color, then applied the next layer over and wetsanded.
Beware of aluminium paint, it's mentioned in earlier posts as being totally different to work with and it doesn't sand or polish like regular TremClad does. IIRC, it's not a good base to paint over, either.


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