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426 Hemi rebuild... #2724661
12/16/19 09:40 PM
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Lake Villa Il
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Thought I would share my progress with this.

Started out as a 426 'crate' engine. Supposed to be 9-1 compression but I measured it at 8.4-1.

I was running it with dual AVS2 carbs, exhaust manifolds and a dual 2.5" exhaust.

Cam was Comp 227-249 on a 107 lsa, hydraulic flat tappet.

Made 405rwhp on a Dynojet but nosed over hard at 6k. (Valvesprings were single with only 100lbs on the seat.)



Here is my plan which continually changes-

Edelbrock pro flo 4, 2x4 EFI

Spent about 30 hours now porting the iron heads. Concentrated on bowl and guide boss while also raising the port .090 to match the Edelbrock intake.

Need to get the guides done along with valve job and flow #'s still.

Ordered Morel "black mamba lite"solid roller lifters. Pressurized oil to the roller, no bearing or bushing.

Probably 260-ish @.050 cam with under .650 lift. Running stock rocker arms and thought it would be good to keep lift reasonable.

Plan to run lash caps. Does anyone ever order a slightly shorter valve to maintain geometry or non issue?

Ordered CP 4.31 bore pistons, 102cc dome. .043/.043 3mm. Will be 11.9-1

Will likely build headers as I want stainless but don't want to pay 2k for them.

That's it for now. Will update as I get further along. smile

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69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2724717
12/17/19 08:10 AM
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Looks great - keep the updates coming !

Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2724735
12/17/19 09:39 AM
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Nice work on that iron, looking forward to flow numbers and updates.

Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2724847
12/17/19 01:46 PM
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Polishing the intake port walls leads to fuel separating from the air at idle and low air speeds, you might want to make them not so shiny now to help avoid that work
I would check the lift at on all the valves at the retainers with checking springs to see how close your rocker arms are as far as their actual ratio are scope I've seen .130 lift differences when checking rocker arms from 4 different motors when I was blueprinting a NHRA stocker motor puke shruggy


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Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: Cab_Burge] #2724849
12/17/19 01:57 PM
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Thanks guys.

Cab- Yes I was planning to check actual lift at all valves but good to know, that's quite a difference.

Being that it will be port injected I don't think the surface finish would be the cause of fuel separation in comparison to carbureted but the final finish on it was done with 36 grit sanding rolls so rougher than it looks.


69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2724859
12/17/19 02:21 PM
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What fuel do you intend to run in this?

Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2724867
12/17/19 02:51 PM
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93 mixed with e85 at 40-50% ethanol to start. Will reduce alcohol content from there as I get it dialed in.

Not concerned if it can't run well on just 93 octane and I suspect it won't.

If I decide it needs to at some point I can swap out the head gaskets from the .027's I'm starting out with.


69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2725021
12/18/19 01:11 AM
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I see your using a TREMEC transmission did you have to modify the torsion bar crossmember? I’m in the middle of putting in a Gforce G101a in my 69 charger and the shifter comes up straight through the crossmember. So I’m trying to figure out how to make a new crossmember so it joins back up.

Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: Cape] #2725068
12/18/19 09:23 AM
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No modifications to torsion bar crossmember, they notch the transmission just behind the shifter and the crossmember fits within that relief.


69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2725368
12/19/19 11:16 AM
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S.E. Michigan
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The car stuff is super cool and all but I'd really like to see more of that pretty looking shop, too.

Are you on garagejournal?

Or more pix here (I can't possibly be the only one)


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Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: ZIPPY] #2725440
12/19/19 06:06 PM
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Haha, thank you. I did have pics on garagejournal before photobucket ruined the internet.

I'll take some and update. thumbs


69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2725572
12/20/19 09:14 AM
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Kool. Looking forward to it.

Agreed...the photobucket thing definitely trashed a huge amount of formerly worthwhile information.



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Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: ZIPPY] #2725599
12/20/19 10:45 AM
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Well quick rundown is I bought a house that had a lot of garage space, this one was just an unfinished pole building, 36x47.

I replaced three of the trusses with curved trusses for lift clearance and built attic storage within the front two.

Had it spray foam insulated then covered the interior with steel panels called dura liner from Mendards. (same as outside skin but thinner). Easy to work with.

All led lighting. (except for string lights that I haven't taken down since my wedding)

Externally mounted heat and a/c unit. No windows so doesn't take much at all to keep at a nice temperature with the spray foam.

I did white epoxy/urethane which reflects light and makes things easy to find though I didn't do a clear topcoat which was a mistake as it shows scratches rather easily.

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69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2725664
12/20/19 03:00 PM
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Addison,IL
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Wow! Nice setup.

Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #2725787
12/21/19 08:10 AM
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I have garage envy


'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: INTMD8] #2725841
12/21/19 11:27 AM
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It amazes me how nice you can make a shop with enough money and desire up bow
I'm not showing mine whistling


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Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: Cab_Burge] #2725843
12/21/19 11:32 AM
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makes mine look like the ghetto


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Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: jkgtx] #2725967
12/21/19 07:28 PM
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Lake Villa Il
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Haha, thanks guys


69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 650rwhp @7250 510rwtq @5700
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: Tig] #2725974
12/21/19 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tig
I have garage envy


Exactly!!
Big time!!


68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123
Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
Re: 426 Hemi rebuild... [Re: fast68plymouth] #2726130
12/22/19 01:44 PM
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makes my shop look like an earthquake hit ! shock
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