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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: OhioMopar] #2548265
09/10/18 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By Quickrunner
I am using the Smith assassin bars in my build. I went with Calvert for the split mono springs.

Thank you for the reply. Have you had your setup out yet?


Car is still under construction.


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: OhioMopar] #2548305
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I've got sum still in the box.I need to install them!One of my friends got them of one off their employees and gave them to me.Smith isn't that far from me!

Re: Assassin bars. [Re: OhioMopar] #2548335
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You can't go wrong with either. I have Cal tracs on my car and no complaints. I have thought about switching to the Smith bars for a little more adjustability but I've been 1.24 short time and not sure how much more I could do with a DOT approved 26" radial tire

Re: Assassin bars. [Re: OhioMopar] #2548409
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Smith bars work great and i had no issue with customer service

Re: Assassin bars. [Re: OhioMopar] #2721902
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Does anyone have a picture of how the shocks mount on the Assassin spring plates?

Re: Assassin bars. [Re: 65Fury440] #2721937
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It may be different based on the application. I cut the shock plates down on my 65 Dodge pickup because the stock shock mount plate wouldn't fit with the Assassin rear end plate. I don't have a picture but I ended up with a shock mount plate that only uses 2 holes so it fits on one side of the Assassin plate.

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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: earlymopar] #2722376
12/07/19 06:45 PM
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I have heard of high HP cars bending springs at the cross bolt with cal tracs. That's one of the reasons I went with assassin bars plus theres more adjustability. They are very nice! I also went with smiths spring perches for them. Along with calvert split monos and sliders.


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: HOTMOPR] #2722419
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28 10.5 tire . Cal tracks for the win

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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: OhioMopar] #2722515
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All the additional holes of the Assassin bars are only of benefit if you have a solid baseline from which to tune, as well as the time to test the various configurations. If not, I can see people getting lost among all the possibilities. There's something to be said for keeping the options to a usable minimum.

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Originally Posted by BradH
All the additional holes of the Assassin bars are only of benefit if you have a solid baseline from which to tune, as well as the time to test the various configurations. If not, I can see people getting lost among all the possibilities. There's something to be said for keeping the options to a usable minimum.
.. Agreed ..it's like buying a flashy fishing lure..99% of users More adjustment is not needed they have issues in other areas that need to be addressed... A lot of times more adjustability creates more variables and issues from what I have seen


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: WHITEDART] #2722524
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Originally Posted by WHITEDART
28 10.5 tire . Cal tracks for the win


I had guys tell me they couldn't get Cal-Tracs to work on a Mopar before I put them on mine. LOL. realcrazy


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: WHITEDART] #2722547
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Originally Posted by WHITEDART
Originally Posted by BradH
All the additional holes of the Assassin bars are only of benefit if you have a solid baseline from which to tune, as well as the time to test the various configurations. If not, I can see people getting lost among all the possibilities. There's something to be said for keeping the options to a usable minimum.
.. Agreed ..it's like buying a flashy fishing lure..99% of users More adjustment is not needed they have issues in other areas that need to be addressed... A lot of times more adjustability creates more variables and issues from what I have seen


I'm a bit surprised you haven't bent a spring yet as quick as you are in 60 feet.


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: madscientist] #2722550
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There are holes for front or rear mount shocks. I thought they came with the studs but I can't find them so I can't confirm... Sorry it sideways..

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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: HOTMOPR] #2722585
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Thanks for looking, Calvert sells a set, I'll order them up.

Re: Assassin bars. [Re: madscientist] #2722594
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Originally Posted by madscientist
Originally Posted by WHITEDART
Originally Posted by BradH
All the additional holes of the Assassin bars are only of benefit if you have a solid baseline from which to tune, as well as the time to test the various configurations. If not, I can see people getting lost among all the possibilities. There's something to be said for keeping the options to a usable minimum.
.. Agreed ..it's like buying a flashy fishing lure..99% of users More adjustment is not needed they have issues in other areas that need to be addressed... A lot of times more adjustability creates more variables and issues from what I have seen


I'm a bit surprised you haven't bent a spring yet as quick as you are in 60 feet.
. Call Calvert tell them what the application and hp level is and they will set you up with the Spring that . Will be trouble free.


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: WHITEDART] #2722612
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Its a known fact that much over 800 hp cal tracs bend split monos eventually. If youre at or above that hp level go with assassin bars.


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: HOTMOPR] #2722645
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Ran CalTracs leaf springs and bars for years. Tried both holes and settled on the lower hole.
Best 60 ft@ 3700 lbs (race weight) 1.38. Best et was 9.88@ 135
Used stock shock plates and reinforced the spring perches.
I would recommend them.

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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: HOTMOPR] #2722682
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Originally Posted by HOTMOPR
Its a known fact that much over 800 hp cal tracs bend split monos eventually. If youre at or above that hp level go with assassin bars.
...more Fake news...


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: WHITEDART] #2722689
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Originally Posted by WHITEDART
Originally Posted by HOTMOPR
Its a known fact that much over 800 hp cal tracs bend split monos eventually. If youre at or above that hp level go with assassin bars.
...more Fake news...


Pretty good thread over on yellow bullet. But believe whatever you want bro..


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Re: Assassin bars. [Re: HOTMOPR] #2722706
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There are (a lot) of other variables in addition to HP that would contribute to that.

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