Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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Any advice is appreciated. Friend has a 54 New Yorker, 331 Hemi, WITH power steering so the generator has an output shaft that drives the power steering. Don’t want to convert to an alternator. Is it possible to convert the stock unit to 12 volts? Or buy a converted unit? I see these, but have no idea how well they work. https://www.vintageautogarage.com/1...r-12V-Field-Coils-Brush-p/ag12-4060k.htmI think this generator design was in use about 1950-54. Any ideas?
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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I have read on the John Deere boards that a six volt generator may charge the battery adequately in a twelve volt system if simply equipped with a 12V regulator. Never tried it myself though. Also a '50's tractor does not have much electrical demand. I'll bet you can get a very similar looking generator with the correct voltage - are there any more shops in existence that could help? Everything nowadays seems to be "throw it away and buy a new one made in China"...
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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Without knowing anything about that exact generator I'll just say sure, of course it is possible. Is it easy or cost effective, heck if I know. But as long as you have a housing and a rotating shaft you can build an alternator.
If you're asking if there is a drop in conversion kit then I'm sure the answer is no. My link is a conversion kit that doesn’t require rewiring the armature. But I don’t know how well these work. Rewiring the arm would be fine if we could find someone that does it. Or of course finding someone that sells converted units, which I doubt that person exists. Wondering what others have done about this...
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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Try posting your question on p15-d24.com . That forum is dedicated to Mopars older than 1960 and has a lot of knowledgeable members. Somebody should be able to point you in the right direction. Thank you! I’m going to check them out.
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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There is a guy in Kent WA that does starters and alternators. I was told he may do older generators. I think it is 'The Rebuilder' and he is in a small shop. 253-854-0904
Or try Romaine Electric 425-264-1700
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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All you need is the correct 12 volt field winding's and a 12 volt regulator. The 6 volt generator can work with just a regulator but most likely will have a short life. Which is what the ‘conversion kit’ is in the op link. I wonder how well they work.
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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There is a guy in Kent WA that does starters and alternators. I was told he may do older generators. I think it is 'The Rebuilder' and he is in a small shop. 253-854-0904
Or try Romaine Electric 425-264-1700 I will forward those contacts to him. Certainly worth a few calls. Thanks
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Re: Possible to convert 6 volt gen to 12 volt?
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There is a place local to me that does all sorts of electric motors. I have taken old 6v generators to them all the way up to 2-300 HP three phase electrics. They do good work and fast turn around. If anyone can rewind those fields to 12v specs, it would be them. Oh yeah, they are mennonite! Kind of ironic I know. For those who dont know what mennonite is, they are sorta like Amish but not quite as strict with the religion. https://electric-equipment-and-supply-dealers.cmac.ws/wengers-motor-service/27215/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wengers-Motor/120458901457857My old man used to rewind old Autolite 6v generators for indian motorcycles. I think he simply figured out how many turns the fields needed for 12v by trial and error. They used to sell conversion field coils for them at one time.
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