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Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears #270820
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440 with 915 heads, shifting at 6 and going through at 7200 running a 10.38 @ 127 with 4.88's. I figure with the 4.30's it will go through at about 6400, what should the ET be at? I think i was well passed the peak power level of the 915's at 7200.

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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Supersonic] #270821
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It will cut your ET by .2 to .25 as long as your converter is not loose as a goose. I am going to say you were hooking before based on your time vs speed. But if it was not hooking before it will pick up a little more and be more consistent.

You did not say how tall your tire was and please tell your 60 ft.


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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Ron Silva] #270822
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It will cut your ET by .2 to .25 as long as your converter is not loose as a goose. I am going to say you were hooking before based on your time vs speed. But if it was not hooking before it will pick up a little more and be more consistent.

You did not say how tall your tire was and please tell your 60 ft.




My 60 was 1.44, and the converter stalls at around 4300. It hooks pretty good about 70% of the time. Tire is 32x14 goodyears

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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #270823
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Have you figured out your torque convertor efficiency ?

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: RemCharger] #270824
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You may pick up some, but that converter is still way tight at 4300. I have seen 440 ironhead combos pick up ET by running converters considered way too loose. My buddy Joe put one in that flashed 6000 at the line, he shifted at 6200, and went quicker by over .05. He didn't like it, tightened it up, and it went slower. Not much, but there was a loss.
My bet is to run a converter that will leave the line at just over 5000, and shift at 6000 if that is what works. I only have about an800 rpm window in my combo.


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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: gregsdart] #270825
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I tried this, going from 4.56 to 4.30 and lost almost .3 went from 10.0's to high 10.20's. All combo are different but I wouldn't do it. Unless your trying to slow the car down. Its better to be gearbound IMO.

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: B1MAXX] #270826
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I bet very little change, that motor with those heads are probably done well before 7200. so I say you wont see much change.

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Quicktree] #270827
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Supersonic- i'd be interested to know the race weight of your car and the cam/compression combo


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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: B1MAXX] #270828
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I tried this, going from 4.56 to 4.30 and lost almost .3 went from 10.0's to high 10.20's. All combo are different but I wouldn't do it. Unless your trying to slow the car down. Its better to be gearbound IMO.




What heads did you have on your car?

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Quicktree] #270829
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I am going to agree with Quicktree - Not much change if any.

And add that I'm guessing you will start to get a more consistent launch/60' time.



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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: ProStDodge] #270830
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I'm curious about this one too as I broke my 4.56 gear set in my Dana so I replaced it with a 4.30 Pro Gear. I had to add weight in the trunk to stay consistent in the summer heat. My car has a loose converter, small cam .579ish, 14x32's tires and stock Edelbrocks so I'm guessing it was done by 6300 anyway ...it stops pulling hard around 1000ft. So now I'm hoping for more consistent 60 fts in the summer and a little more MPH. Worst case scenario I buy 13x31 slicks next time and its back to about the same overall ratio.

I've talked to several guys at the track about this and they all said it ran about with a little better MPH.


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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Supersonic] #270831
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I tried this, going from 4.56 to 4.30 and lost almost .3 went from 10.0's to high 10.20's. All combo are different but I wouldn't do it. Unless your trying to slow the car down. Its better to be gearbound IMO.




What heads did you have on your car?




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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: B1MAXX] #270832
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I tried this, going from 4.56 to 4.30 and lost almost .3 went from 10.0's to high 10.20's. All combo are different but I wouldn't do it. Unless your trying to slow the car down. Its better to be gearbound IMO.




What heads did you have on your car?




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I plan on getting a set of those or the indy ez-1's later this year. They say those b1 heads really like high rpms.

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Supersonic] #270833
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Mine likes to be shifted at 6550. Any more and the car slows down. Thats why I tried the 4.30's.

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: B1MAXX] #270834
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I would not suggest going all the way to 4.30 gears. 4.56 may be a better compromise. I would tend to agree that the car is likely laying over trying to turn it above 7000 RPM with 915 heads.


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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Edge] #270835
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I bet it won't hurt it.......I'd be surprised to see more than a tenth ET loss if it does.......

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I bet it won't hurt it.......I'd be surprised to see more than a tenth ET loss if it does.......




If it runs the same et or faster at lower rpms i will be happy, if it slows down any at all i'll be putting the 4.88's back in

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Supersonic] #270837
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Good luck and keep us posted

Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: B1MAXX] #270838
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Well good luck with it. I am going the other way from .30 to 4.88 and hoping to pick up a tenth or so.


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Re: Guess E.T change going from 4.88 to 4.30 gears [Re: Al_Alguire] #270839
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As an alternative if you have the room and need tires you could go to a taller tire ? Instead of changing gears I am moving from a 31.8 to a 33 tall tire (approx 5 MPH higher at same RPM)
Good luck with your change


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