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Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's #2679771
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Came across and ad on Craigslist. A guy has a 73 318 long block for sale, claiming that starting in 73 Mopar started putting earlier 340 internals into 318's. ????

Re: Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's [Re: elmor353] #2679782
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I think he doesn't know his a$$ from his knee cap, but then what do I know?

Re: Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's [Re: elmor353] #2679793
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Also, weren't the 273, 318 and 340 cranks and rods the same?

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As long as it was balanced it should be fine. See if he has proof /receipt of the work .

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It's a used long block. Doesn't look like it's ever had work done to it. He is claiming that ma mopar put 340 internals into 318's, starting in 1973.

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Originally Posted by elmor353
Also, weren't the 273, 318 and 340 cranks and rods the same?


no

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Well, some stuff swaps over, bolts, timing covers, brackets, oil pans, etc.

But.........

Do not believe everything you read on the internet or elsewhere.

At times, skepticism is a virtue.

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No mopar didn`t do that. I misread and thought you said he installed 340 internal parts. The 340 went to a cast crank, special balancer around 73 but it was different from the 318. 318`s remained unchanged from what I remember.I would shy away from that deal.

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What Mopars4ever said on the receipts/balancing, go check it out skeptically, it may be a good deal (nothing ventured nothing gained). EDIT if parts were swapped I would assume it was balanced).

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I had a 72 318 that had those lighter rods like the 273's had, maybe that's what he was trying to say

Re: Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's [Re: mopars4ever] #2679849
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rod # 3418645 was used in 73/74 318 same rod 71/73 360 and also 72/73 340 with cast crank .
Non of the 318 & 340 cranks have the same part #'s

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Re: Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's [Re: GVH] #2679851
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The forging part numbers might be the same but the finished part numbers wouldn't be. IIRC 318's and other small blocks had a pressed wrist pin, whereas 340 rods all were bronze bushed and the pistons had floating pins with C Clips.

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For crying out loud, he's trying to say the seller is claiming Chrysler built 318's with the same crank and rods as the 340 from the factory. Not that the seller built it that way.

He's not going to have and receipts or paper work showing balancing.

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Super Cuda why don`t you find another place to annoy people.

Re: Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's [Re: Sixpak] #2679893
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source i have says 273 /318 and all 340 up to 73 had floating pins . 318 went to pressed pins in 74 and all 360 had pressed pins .

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Looks like seller corrected his listing.

The power steering pump might be a good grab.

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/d/sherwood-mopar-318-la-long-block/6938547508.html

Was...Nearly complete 73’ dated Mopar 318 LA motor with all accessories pictured! Would be a good core motor to rebuild. 1973 is when Mopar started putting the earlier 340 engine internals into their 318 motors. This makes for a great rebuild or stroker! It has a

Now..Nearly complete 73’ dated Mopar 318 LA motor with all accessories pictured! Would be a good core. This makes for a great rebuild or stroker! I have never ran engine so it should be rebuilt before use. Sold as core. Read Less

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Yep, that's the one. Perhaps another of the local Mopar guys called him on it as well.

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All the 318 had the same bore from beginning to end, stock is 3.91. correct scope
All 340, 1968 to 1973 had 4.040 bore size, correct? Me thinks that the 340 piston will never fit in a 318, will they work
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I bought a 70 318 once for a core with a rod knock for the forged crank, opened it up and it had 4.070 bore TRW forged 340 pistons in it. I still have the block under my shelf as the bores still look great, I just can't convinve myself to put it back together seeing how the normally 165 # block now weighs 122# and the bores sound like glass when I tap on them with my fingernail.


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Re: Earlier 340 Internals in 1973 318's [Re: GVH] #2680625
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Originally Posted by GVH
source i have says 273 /318 and all 340 up to 73 had floating pins . 318 went to pressed pins in 74 and all 360 had pressed pins .


I thought the only motors of that era to get bronzed bushed rods and floating pins were the 340 and the Gen 2 hemi...

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