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Never done any painting before so I am curious how the satin paint will hold up. This is not a trailer queen or a daily driver, but used mainly on weekends for work around the house.
So any opinions or real worl experiences?
My initial thought is that 'over time' the satin type finish would eventually go shiny in spots...
For example, if you hang your elbow out the window when driving... then the body part your arm comes in contact with would eventually go shiny.
When washing the satin finish.. eventually where you rubbed will go shinier than other areas...
I think of it as being something like a suede jacket... where they look great when you buy them... but eventually where the suede is rubbed will go shiny.
I have seen cars driving around with almost shiny 'primer' paint... and they explained to me that originally their primer had a somewhat satiny type look... but with time it lost that satin look and went shiny.
Another thought about the satiny look is that to achieve it, the paint would not have a glossy or closed surface. Therefor the surface was somewhat porous... and tended to had dirt adhere to the pores in the paint. When bugs splotted against the paint job it was harder to remove them etc.
I know with the Brightside paint, they do sell an 'additive' that will reduce the high gloss shine and give a satiny finish. In that case, I can see the polymer paint holding its satiny look for a longer time than say an enamel based paint.
Don't know... just thought I would toss in those rambling thoughts...
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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01/25/07 08:16 AM
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I like the idea of using the heavy Brightside primer to level things up too.
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So any opinions or real worl experiences?
I have done a fair amount of leveling up just using Rustoleum "Stops Rust". If you don't mind putting a couple extra coats of paint on and you use a sanding block, (I use the 3M hard rubber one) you can level it out quite nicely.
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01/25/07 08:27 AM
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Would these paint jobs be considered 10 footers or are they equivalent to any good solid-colored (I'm thinking white) high-gloss paint job say, under shopping center lights at the evening cruise-in ?
I am only about half done with my car, I have my front fenders done except for the final wet sanding and polishing, and it has less orange peel the way it is now than my 97 Blazer. My car is a white and even with only 4 coats on it, it needs to be out in BRIGHT sunlight to see any issues, and these will come out with the next sanding or 2. As long as you use a sanding block while wet sanding you can smooth out ALOT of imperfections with the number of coats that are put on. I would say that with the flaws that I have right now you have to get within 5 feet to see them.
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I am impressed. Looks really good
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sort of on topic, but, like everyone else, I have noted to myself that factory paint on new cars looks pretty bad....recently I have seen that there are even varying degrees of that. most cars look ok, but I was sitting next to a new Jeep Commander in traffic and all it needed was the aforementioned "Tropicana" label to complete the look. I could not believe how bad it was. it looked worse than most of the results in this thread. and this thing was pretty new, a couple of weeks, the bottom was not even dirty yet.
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01/25/07 12:29 PM
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I'm assuming with my car in primer and completely blocked and ready to spray - I should move on to the body shop. I want to use this technique, but I don't see how I can paint engine bay, underside of hood/deck, cowl with vents, etc and get the finish I wan't, unless I can spray these areas w/o orange peel? Would these paint jobs be considered 10 footers or are they equivalent to any good solid-colored (I'm thinking white) high-gloss paint job say, under shopping center lights at the evening cruise-in ?
Actually i can show you some pics of a cruise in, at night under shopping center lights (keep in mind i used my cell phone camera which is perty crappy but you can see what it looks like):
that's my charger next to a challenger vert.
Actually the 2 best conditions for this paintjob where they look killer is in full sun, or night. Overcast days make any car paint look crappy, you can see every flaw and dent/scratch. Your end result should you choose to accept this mission is going to be as good as you make it, my charger is a good 1-footer, maybe even better, and for the period of car it is, the paint is just as good if not better than it came from the factory. Aussiedriver proved that you can surpass OEM paint quality, and i'm sure his paint would be "show" quality, the moral is it will be as good in the end as your prep/paint/polishing skills.   
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I am impressed. Looks really good
Cheers dood. Glad someone noticed!  I guess it's becoming old to see this working. 
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I am impressed. Looks really good
Cheers dood. Glad someone noticed! I guess it's becoming old to see this working.
i noticed, looks kinda like mine lol:
i like that color, what bug you have?
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Thanks people, I feel a lot more welcomed around this place now. Here's my bug how it looks at the moment, well last night technically:   Ordered some new tyres for it today too.  I'm using Brightside for the paint. I should take a few pics now that it's waxed. It looks great! Worryingly great, I'll have to look after it when it's done.
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Finally got the truck back on the road, I did use the buffer on the doors where the mirrors mount, used Poorboys SR3 and SR2.5 then some wax. Very satisfied with it Remember just a driver.
that looks awesome
you need a before and after pic side by side lol.
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01/25/07 08:46 PM
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Finally got the truck back on the road, I did use the buffer on the doors where the mirrors mount, used Poorboys SR3 and SR2.5 then some wax. Very satisfied with it Remember just a driver.
that looks awesome
you need a before and after pic side by side lol.
How's this 
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I am impressed. Looks really good
Cheers dood. Glad someone noticed! I guess it's becoming old to see this working.
It does look great tomarse. We have become jaded here now that it seems we can all do it. I haven't ventured into AussieDriver's realm yet to polish it, but the painting is as easy as Charger said it was.
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01/25/07 11:12 PM
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I'm assuming with my car in primer and completely blocked and ready to spray - I should move on to the body shop. I want to use this technique, but I don't see how I can paint engine bay, underside of hood/deck, cowl with vents, etc and get the finish I wan't, unless I can spray these areas w/o orange peel? Would these paint jobs be considered 10 footers or are they equivalent to any good solid-colored (I'm thinking white) high-gloss paint job say, under shopping center lights at the evening cruise-in ?
I ain't skeered (you Brits probably haven't heard that one!) Anyway I'm confident (I got skills, as Napolean would say)I can sand, I can buff and best of all, I'm not in a rush. As stated above, my concern is engine bay, under hood, cowl with vents - how best to approached these areas and get the results ? Should I spray ? Am I asking too much if using this method ? Body is prepped (blocked/guide coat/blocked, you guys know the drill)and it's time to make the decision. I really want to do this myself if possible.
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Well, like many others, I've signed up for this forum mostly for this thread. I started out thinking I'd read through the whole thing, but then I realized how freakin' long it is!  Is there a summary written up anywhere? From some of the later threads, it looks like preference may have moved towards the Brightside marine paint vs. the various flavors of Rust-Oleum/Tremclad - yes, no, maybe? Where do I get the Cliff notes!?  
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Seriously man, just read all 101 pages. It will be worth it because you'll have something valuable to read every day and will share int he hardships and mistakes every person who has posted on this thread has had. It's like a novel, seriously. But you'll learn alot more by reading every page rather than just a brief summary and from getting everyones different opinions you can pretty much form your own choice on what you want to do and how you want to do it, because there are different ways. And it's been summarized many times in many different peoples posts...so just start reading!
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01/26/07 12:45 AM
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Seriously man, just read all 101 pages.
Not so fast grasshopper, you ain't getting off that easy. theres a whole other thread that's somewhere on here that's probably another 80 pages.
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