Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
[Re: mopar dave]
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Would it make any difference where I mount gauge sensor for water temp gauge on a big block? Still having trouble running warm at road speed with the new electric fan/shroud kit. I drilled 8 more 1" holes in the shroud(12 holes) for more air flow, but still runs 210+ in 75* weather. I slow down it cools down. Stop and go runs under 200. My Autometer gauge is 20+ yrs old, thinking about replacing with new. No issues with 17" mechanical fan other than a power eater. This fan kit uses 2 12" spal fans. I suspect your A/F ratio is lean. Give it a little more fuel and try it. Fans cannot move air comparable to 30+ mph. It could also be a timing issue.
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
[Re: mopar dave]
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I would take off the fans/shrouding & from a dead cold start get out on the highway fast & see if it is OK now which would point to airflow. Electric water pump? I hear some of em dont flow enough at speed. A partly clogged radiator would do it or a stat not opening all the way(rare tho on the stat).
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
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some have success, but i really don't like ANY aftermarket fan kits, shroud or not. they just don't stack up to their claims. most of the time, the included shrouds block airflow at speed. i always use OEM electric fans. way more airflow and durability. however, you MUST be sure your electrical system can handle their load, as they take a TON of amps at start up. just my opinion, your mileage may vary.
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
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So, the theory behind replacing the gauge is....... it reads fine with the mechanical fan, but somehow is no longer functioning correctly when the electric fans are used?
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
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So, the theory behind replacing the gauge is....... it reads fine with the mechanical fan, but somehow is no longer functioning correctly when the electric fans are used?
That's a good one!!!
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
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Well,,,,,the best place to mount the temp sensor is in that hole in the water pump
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
[Re: mopar dave]
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No, its old and would have more piece of mind knowing if its reading correctly. Ever at 165* could of still been reading high. Who knows, but I will find out. C’mon Dave....... let’s be honest here. You had zero concerns the motor was running hot when it had the mechanical fan on it........ and if the gauge still showed 165* with the new fans, you still wouldn’t think anything about it. You def wouldn’t be installing a new gauge just to verify that the 165* reading you were seeing was correct. But instead, it’s reading over 200*..... and now you’re grasping at straws hoping the gauge went bad and that the electric fans are working just as good as the mech fan did. Possible? Sure....... never say never........ but that would be some coincidence that the gauge went bad just as the new fans were installed.
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
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Well,,,,,the best place to mount the temp sensor is in that hole in the water pump Yup........You’d expect the factory would know where to install the sender.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Best place to mount the sensor probe on machanical water tem
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If you are going to do any testing then I'd suggest pulling the electric fan out completely and taking it for a drive on the freeway. If it stays cool then you know that the fan is blocking the air. If it gets hot then you have a water flow problem. The engine might get a little warm at idle or slow speed without a fan but if it is cool outside and if you live close to the main road then there shouldn't be any harm in driving it that way.
A clutch fan is probably the best setup if you can fit one in there.
Last edited by AndyF; 06/22/19 07:54 PM.
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