Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: dragon]
#2647656
04/21/19 10:02 PM
04/21/19 10:02 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530
Fulton County, PA
|
Use a solenoid that has a 4th pin that needs to be grounded to function - as opposed to one that's grounded through the case to what ever it's mounted to. Run that to the switch with the other side to a ground. Older stock Chrysler switches work that way.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: hemi-itis]
#2647805
04/22/19 12:10 PM
04/22/19 12:10 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530
Fulton County, PA
|
If you're using a stock Chrysler relay, the #2 wire is the one that runs through the neutral switch.. If you're using a Ford style solenoid, use the 4 pin style.that needs an external ground.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: dragon]
#2647819
04/22/19 12:48 PM
04/22/19 12:48 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,750 Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel
Too Many Posts
|
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,750
Rio Linda, CA
|
What makes you think the switch in the shifter can't handle the starter solenoid load?
The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: John_Kunkel]
#2647959
04/22/19 08:41 PM
04/22/19 08:41 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530
Fulton County, PA
|
What makes you think the switch in the shifter can't handle the starter solenoid load? Most of those switches are just small micro switches of some kind, I can't imagine they are intended to carry any substantial load. And most race cars are or should be running a remote Ford style solenoid to operate the starter, Or if it has factory stuff in it, run the brown wire in and interrupt it with the neutral switch.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2648157
04/23/19 12:47 PM
04/23/19 12:47 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,750 Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel
Too Many Posts
|
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,750
Rio Linda, CA
|
So, what's the current draw of a "Ford style solenoid"?
The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: John_Kunkel]
#2648173
04/23/19 01:49 PM
04/23/19 01:49 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530
Fulton County, PA
|
So, what's the current draw of a "Ford style solenoid"? A Ford 4 pin solenoid can be used. I actually use a Cole-Hersee solenoid, this is a heavy-duty, all metal can unit designed for intermittent use. Wires just like the cheap plastic auto parts store Ford style unit. Has the 4th pin for grounding. Use a jumper on the starter and this solenoid carries the load of both the starter mounted solenoid and the starter motor. Main cable at the starter is only hot in "start". Current to engage this solenoid is just shy of 2.5A.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2648200
04/23/19 03:51 PM
04/23/19 03:51 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 304 Portland, Oregon
Digger73
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 304
Portland, Oregon
|
You do realize that the stock starting system uses a relay right? The current to activate the stock starter relay is very small. The micro switch that comes with the shifter is more than able to handle the current required to activate the stock relay.
Digger73 (Mike)
I live with fear everyday but, sometimes she lets me race!
|
|
|
Re: shifter neutral switch wire
[Re: Digger73]
#2648216
04/23/19 04:43 PM
04/23/19 04:43 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,530
Fulton County, PA
|
You do realize that the stock starting system uses a relay right? The current to activate the stock starter relay is very small. The micro switch that comes with the shifter is more than able to handle the current required to activate the stock relay.
Digger73 (Mike) Yes, I know how the stock system works. I'm assuming the OP isn't using the neutral switch in the transmission or he wouldn't have asked the question. And 3 days ago, I told him he could route the brown wire from the stock relay to the shifter switch and then to a handy ground IF he is using the stock stuff..
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
|
|