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71 Cuda ignition problem. #2628128
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When I try to start the car the car cranks. When I let go of the keys it starts. If I touch the key all my gauges stopped working including tack. New ignition harness. New key cylinder. Removed all bulkhead connections cleaned greased. Changed all pens on dashboard harness for ignition plug . Anybody have any ideas thanks

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Warrior] #2628131
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If I touch the key all my gauges stopped working including tack.
Welcome aboard. the loose connection is right there when you touch it, it makes/breaks the connection (in the ign1 run terminal I would assume).


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Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: RapidRobert] #2628133
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Not sure what you mean. [censored] switch?

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when you bump the ign switch by touching it with the key (if I am reading it right), the loose connection would have to be right there, the slight jostling is makeing/breaking the connection/terminal that is slightly loose.


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Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Warrior] #2628216
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Thanks. i'll keep Tryan

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check / test ballast resistor

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Warrior] #2628236
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Originally Posted By Warrior
When I try to start the car the car cranks. When I let go of the keys it starts. If I touch the key all my gauges stopped working including tack. New ignition harness. New key cylinder. Removed all bulkhead connections cleaned greased. Changed all pens on dashboard harness for ignition plug . Anybody have any ideas thanks


I think RR is much closer to the likely source.
Check the wiring diagram for your year to be sure what I say here applies.

The instruments and the ignition are both fed power from the Key switch's Run Terminal. On an earlier car the wire to each are crimped together on the same connecting terminal. On your car with the key switch in the steering column the connection may be done differently.

Regardless, the one thing both have in common is the connection in the key switch. So look at the wires and or look at the wires along with the diagram. If they share a terminal on the connector, start there. If not, then its probably in the switch.

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Put the key into run position, and with the ground lead clipped to a ground screw or clean metal, probe the back of the connector cavity with the wires going to ignition and instruments. If its not at battery voltage and the one to accessory is, then the situation is as I posted above.

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another place to check is the connection at the bottom of the steering column that connects to the harness going to the bulkhead. many times this connection gets corroded, or brittle from age. resistance builds up, then heat, causing this connection to melt. have repaired many at that spot, even after ignition switches have been replaced.
just somewhere else to look. let us know what you find please.
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Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: moparpoolman] #2628292
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Did that first. Same thing. Thanks

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That was the second thing I did. Pulled all bulkhead connections off clean replaced as needed. Same thing with dash highness. Thanks will let you know if I get to the bottom of it.

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They don’t share in the column. Maybe by the bulkhead connection. Have to check that out. Thanks let you know.

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Warrior] #2628329
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OK. Not too surprising considering the switch change.

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When I try to start the car the car cranks. When I let go of the keys it starts.


Somehow I missed this part when I replied before.
Could be timing, could be the Ignition 2 wire isn't getting power during start.
To test, clip the voltmeter neg to ground and the positive to brown wire connection at the ballast resitor. When you turn the key it should show low voltage in Run and battery voltage in Start.

If it doesn't show battery voltage in Start, then stick the positive into the bulkhead connector cavity. Keep working back until it does.

To save on battery while doing this testing, disconnect the neutral safety at the starter relay. That way you won't be spinning the starter.

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Warrior] #2628332
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PS. I often make up my own schematics of just the circuits I'm trying to understand (ie Having problems with). it makes it so much easier for me to see and understand.
Althoug I don't use tracing paper, that's basically what Chrysler suggested to their tech.
http://www.imperialclub.org/Repair/Lit/Master/247/Page04.htm
I either hand redraw, or use the computer to copy and past to digitized scans or photos into MSDraw or IRFAN and then start coloring, erasing, and moving things until I just have what I need.

I also mark up any corrections in the manual vs. real lift observations.

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Mattax] #2628344
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Tried a different switch I had laying around. Fired right up. Who makes the best replacement any ideas. I know I saw it year one.

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: RapidRobert] #2628346
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Tried an old switch I had. Fired right up. Now I need to find a replacement. Thanks for your time

Re: 71 Cuda ignition problem. [Re: Warrior] #2628374
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Good.
Was just looking at the 71 book (mymopar download).
Instruments are spliced into the accessory circuit, so different splicing than pre 70.

Can't answer who makes good or best. All parts seems to be a crapshoot these days.. frown

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How true that is junk is junk. The switch is about 13 months old.

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Tried an old switch I had. Fired right up.
That was too easy!


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Doesn’t always work like that. But it’s nice when it does. 😎🇺🇸

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