Re: Body color or ?????
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This may not be helpful as I don't have experience with the early 70s models, but in 68-69 for example, the undersides were primered a grayish color. The body color was feathered in on each side a bit beyond the rocker panels, but the majority of the underside was primered. This is how I did my 69 roadrunner, similar to factory.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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Same way I did mine, overspray.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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This may not be helpful as I don't have experience with the early 70s models, but in 68-69 for example, the undersides were primered a grayish color. The body color was feathered in on each side a bit beyond the rocker panels, but the majority of the underside was primered. This is how I did my 69 roadrunner, similar to factory. More examples of how Lynch Road '69 B=bodies were underside color over sprayed with the bottom center dip gray (primer?) corrosion bath left unpainted body color. This is a low mileage survivor Super Bee, you can see the Bahama Yellow on the outside and the gray dip still inboard. There's more examples but can't get to them right now. I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
Unless it's a 100% OE concourse restoration, that you want judged, I'd paint the entire underside body color. I know it's not correct, but the primer just looks like the painter didn't try. And the purists don't need to jump my comment, I know it's harder to replicate the OE look.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
Unless it's a 100% OE concourse restoration, that you want judged, I'd paint the entire underside body color. I know it's not correct, but the primer just looks like the painter didn't try. And the purists don't need to jump my comment, I know it's harder to replicate the OE look. I caught someone on their hands and knees looking under my '68 Road Runner for what I don't know but I said to him "hey if I hand you a wrench could you check a couple of muffler clamps for me while your down there" It was something stupid and if someone is checking out the underside of your car and they're not an OE judge then just ask them what they found so interesting and to also check a couple of muffler clamps too. Mike
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
Unless it's a 100% OE concourse restoration, that you want judged, I'd paint the entire underside body color. I know it's not correct, but the primer just looks like the painter didn't try. And the purists don't need to jump my comment, I know it's harder to replicate the OE look. Disagree. Instead paint it flat grey. Resto Rick sells a paint to do this. Then you have the protection of paint and the right look.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
Unless it's a 100% OE concourse restoration, that you want judged, I'd paint the entire underside body color. I know it's not correct, but the primer just looks like the painter didn't try. And the purists don't need to jump my comment, I know it's harder to replicate the OE look. I caught someone on their hands and knees looking under my '68 Road Runner for what I don't know but I said to him "hey if I hand you a wrench could you check a couple of muffler clamps for me while your down there" It was something stupid and if someone is checking out the underside of your car and they're not an OE judge then just ask them what they found so interesting and to also check a couple of muffler clamps too. Mike Some of these folks crack me up...had one call me out at a show...told me all 69 big block motors were orange.... "Uh...its a 68".... he scampered off.... lol
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
Unless it's a 100% OE concourse restoration, that you want judged, I'd paint the entire underside body color. I know it's not correct, but the primer just looks like the painter didn't try. And the purists don't need to jump my comment, I know it's harder to replicate the OE look. I caught someone on their hands and knees looking under my '68 Road Runner for what I don't know but I said to him "hey if I hand you a wrench could you check a couple of muffler clamps for me while your down there" It was something stupid and if someone is checking out the underside of your car and they're not an OE judge then just ask them what they found so interesting and to also check a couple of muffler clamps too. Mike Some of these folks crack me up...had one call me out at a show...told me all 69 big block motors were orange.... "Uh...its a 68".... he scampered off.... lol Just ask "Where is your car, I would like to critique it?
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I'd do a gray epoxy paint, not primer, then over spray it on the out side in body color if I was looking for O.E. but really I think it's best and less time and prep to just do the bottom body color and be done with it.
Unless it's a 100% OE concourse restoration, that you want judged, I'd paint the entire underside body color. I know it's not correct, but the primer just looks like the painter didn't try. And the purists don't need to jump my comment, I know it's harder to replicate the OE look. I caught someone on their hands and knees looking under my '68 Road Runner for what I don't know but I said to him "hey if I hand you a wrench could you check a couple of muffler clamps for me while your down there" It was something stupid and if someone is checking out the underside of your car and they're not an OE judge then just ask them what they found so interesting and to also check a couple of muffler clamps too. Mike Some of these folks crack me up...had one call me out at a show...told me all 69 big block motors were orange.... "Uh...its a 68".... he scampered off.... lol I was selling my '68 Road Runner and got the same thing from a guy and his "Mopar Expert" too on the engine color being wrong. Got real cocky and wanted me to knock the price off by $5k or more for that mistake and the fact it may not even be a RR engine.........before I could say anything my friend (a real Mopar guy) said "you know it's a '68 and even if it were a '69 this ('68 RR) is an original A/C car and the '69 RR A/C engine it turquoise too. I had no interest in selling the RR to this guy even if he offered more then the asking price.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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You will only be here once so why would you do anything but restore it the way the factory did. Painting the undercarriage body color is as bad as painting the trunk with spatter paint or the engine compartment black. It's all WRONG! There are plenty of products that will protect and have the appearance of the original correct look from the factory. To the OP. If you have a GM guy restoring your Mopar you will have a ton of problems unless you watch him like a Hawk! Do your research and make him do it the way you want or on completion you will be disappointed.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I have a '65 coronet and a '69 coronet r/t. both have the original underbody paint. looks to be a flat black to me. both have some body color overspray showing. Wouldn't by chance both are LA assembly plant cars?
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I think it's way easier to paint the bottom side of the car in the factory primer overspray method. It IS how they came new! No time consuming masking, and heck of $ savings in paint materials! I want to puke everytime I see a car full painted body color underneath. The ironic part is after restoring it incorrectly they add paint dabs and parts tags to detail it up. Why bother, it's incorrect from the get-go! EXACTLY! Well said!
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I think it's way easier to paint the bottom side of the car in the factory primer overspray method. It IS how they came new! No time consuming masking, and heck of $ savings in paint materials! I want to puke everytime I see a car full painted body color underneath. The ironic part is after restoring it incorrectly they add paint dabs and parts tags to detail it up. Why bother, it's incorrect from the get-go! EXACTLY! Well said! Good to see no shortage of strong opinion on this thread, do you boys feel the same about ALL the other incorrect feature you place on your cars?? Clear coat paint, electronic ignition, radial tires, how about the felt on rubber window stoppers or clamps with original markings. See, now I want to puke!! Good to see nothing less than perfection is what you all drive
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I think it's way easier to paint the bottom side of the car in the factory primer overspray method. It IS how they came new! No time consuming masking, and heck of $ savings in paint materials! I want to puke everytime I see a car full painted body color underneath. The ironic part is after restoring it incorrectly they add paint dabs and parts tags to detail it up. Why bother, it's incorrect from the get-go! EXACTLY! Well said! Good to see no shortage of strong opinion on this thread, do you boys feel the same about ALL the other incorrect feature you place on your cars?? Clear coat paint, electronic ignition, radial tires, how about the felt on rubber window stoppers or clamps with original markings. See, now I want to puke!! Good to see nothing less than perfection is what you all drive My car does not have any of things
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Re: Body color or ?????
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Niether does mine. The body and paint of a car is it's foundation, if you get that part correct you can change most anything else that bolts on fairly easily, whether that be a small item like hose clamps, or a major item like an engine swap, it's easy to go back to stock if you want. What hemi70se said makes sense, when you have a car with a major incorrect item like a perfectly painted floor pan (which is not original, it's custom), adding a bunch of production line detail items, inspection markings, paint daubs, etc. is a bit silly. If you want a customized car, build a custom car, if you want an original O.E. correct car, build it, nobody is knocking either one. But if you mix the two together you can expect mixed reactions and opinions if asked, just the way it is. .02 Good to see no shortage of strong opinion on this thread, do you boys feel the same about ALL the other incorrect feature you place on your cars?? Clear coat paint, electronic ignition, radial tires, how about the felt on rubber window stoppers or clamps with original markings. See, now I want to puke!! Good to see nothing less than perfection is what you all drive Before you get too worked up about the responses here keep in mind it's a restoration question on the restoration forum.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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Niether does mine. The body and paint of a car is it's foundation, if you get that part correct you can change most anything else that bolts on fairly easily, whether that be a small item like hose clamps, or a major item like an engine swap, it's easy to go back to stock if you want. What hemi70se said makes sense, when you have a car with a major incorrect item like a perfectly painted floor pan (which is not original, it's custom), adding a bunch of production line detail items, inspection markings, paint daubs, etc. is a bit silly. If you want a customized car, build a custom car, if you want an original O.E. correct car, build it, nobody is knocking either one. But if you mix the two together you can expect mixed reactions and opinions if asked, just the way it is. .02 Good to see no shortage of strong opinion on this thread, do you boys feel the same about ALL the other incorrect feature you place on your cars?? Clear coat paint, electronic ignition, radial tires, how about the felt on rubber window stoppers or clamps with original markings. See, now I want to puke!! Good to see nothing less than perfection is what you all drive Before you get too worked up about the responses here keep in mind it's a restoration question on the restoration forum. Scott, I do understand, and no argument that the correct way to finish is as described with primer and overspray. I think what gets me most is todays anonymity that comes with the internet and everyones over the top opinions and lack of civility. There are ways to express an opinion without adding a touch of 'rude'.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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Niether does mine. The body and paint of a car is it's foundation, if you get that part correct you can change most anything else that bolts on fairly easily, whether that be a small item like hose clamps, or a major item like an engine swap, it's easy to go back to stock if you want. What hemi70se said makes sense, when you have a car with a major incorrect item like a perfectly painted floor pan (which is not original, it's custom), adding a bunch of production line detail items, inspection markings, paint daubs, etc. is a bit silly. If you want a customized car, build a custom car, if you want an original O.E. correct car, build it, nobody is knocking either one. But if you mix the two together you can expect mixed reactions and opinions if asked, just the way it is. .02 Good to see no shortage of strong opinion on this thread, do you boys feel the same about ALL the other incorrect feature you place on your cars?? Clear coat paint, electronic ignition, radial tires, how about the felt on rubber window stoppers or clamps with original markings. See, now I want to puke!! Good to see nothing less than perfection is what you all drive Before you get too worked up about the responses here keep in mind it's a restoration question on the restoration forum. Scott, I do understand, and no argument that the correct way to finish is as described with primer and overspray. I think what gets me most is todays anonymity that comes with the internet and everyones over the top opinions and lack of civility. There are ways to express an opinion without adding a touch of 'rude'. I see nothing rude on this thread. It's pretty straight forward. Like already said it's either original correct or it is custom. AAR#2 Yes I do have original down to the correct markings, nuts and bolts on all the cars I build. They are as correct as humanly possible and if someone can prove I am wrong then I change it to the most correct it can be. I appreciate all Mopars no matter what the condition. But if you are wanting information about these cars on the restoration forum, that's what you are going to get.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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Niether does mine. The body and paint of a car is it's foundation, if you get that part correct you can change most anything else that bolts on fairly easily, whether that be a small item like hose clamps, or a major item like an engine swap, it's easy to go back to stock if you want. What hemi70se said makes sense, when you have a car with a major incorrect item like a perfectly painted floor pan (which is not original, it's custom), adding a bunch of production line detail items, inspection markings, paint daubs, etc. is a bit silly. If you want a customized car, build a custom car, if you want an original O.E. correct car, build it, nobody is knocking either one. But if you mix the two together you can expect mixed reactions and opinions if asked, just the way it is. .02 Good to see no shortage of strong opinion on this thread, do you boys feel the same about ALL the other incorrect feature you place on your cars?? Clear coat paint, electronic ignition, radial tires, how about the felt on rubber window stoppers or clamps with original markings. See, now I want to puke!! Good to see nothing less than perfection is what you all drive Before you get too worked up about the responses here keep in mind it's a restoration question on the restoration forum. Scott, I do understand, and no argument that the correct way to finish is as described with primer and overspray. I think what gets me most is todays anonymity that comes with the internet and everyones over the top opinions and lack of civility. There are ways to express an opinion without adding a touch of 'rude'. I see nothing rude on this thread. It's pretty straight forward. Like already said it's either original correct or it is custom. AAR#2 Yes I do have original down to the correct markings, nuts and bolts on all the cars I build. They are as correct as humanly possible and if someone can prove I am wrong then I change it to the most correct it can be. I appreciate all Mopars no matter what the condition. But if you are wanting information about these cars on the restoration forum, that's what you are going to get. I think the point is being missed, I realize it’s the restoration forum, I realize right from wrong and not only support it but live for it. But I also realize that voicing an opinion that forces a violent body reaction (such as puking) to what one would choose to do, or not do to their car may be a bit extreme. Final post on the matter
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Re: Body color or ?????
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I have a '65 coronet and a '69 coronet r/t. both have the original underbody paint. looks to be a flat black to me. both have some body color overspray showing. Wouldn't by chance both are LA assembly plant cars? the '65 coronet came from LA. the '69 coronet r/t was lynch road,...I think?
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Re: Body color or ?????
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A little late to the party here but a follow up undercoating question....If a car was undercoated, was it done after the gas tank was installed? Should the bottom of the trunk floor just be the dark gray dip/primer color, regardless of the undercoating originally done? Mine had no undercoat above the tank.
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Re: Body color or ?????
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My brothers 70 Charger was grey dip coat above the gas tank.
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