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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2618499 02/07/19 11:30 PM 02/07/19 11:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	ok... the piece of paper I have used never has being suctioned. I use the starter motor. Admision valve prevents the suction. If there is suction will be also "exhaustion"... right ? well, the plug/paper is not being spitted out either on exhaust stroke. Just blows out when the comnpression stroke comes in. God... I have made it many times!!! Its like the ohms law! the flow will go throught the less resistant path! having any kind of plug, air will leave and get in just throught the valves. The minimal amount of suction or exhaustin over the plug won't affect it having the valves in working order. With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2618503 02/07/19 11:43 PM 02/07/19 11:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,825 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,825 Kirkland, Washington	Anyone else had problems with piston stop tools on wedge engines? The stop is at such an extreme angle, almost horizontal to the top of the piston, that the force of the piston can easily deflect the stop if the stop isn't REAL stiff and rigid and too much force is applied. Insert joke here.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: NachoRT74] #2618504 02/07/19 11:44 PM 02/07/19 11:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,314 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,314 Prospect, PA	Originally Posted By NachoRT74 ok... the piece of paper I have used never has being suctioned. I use the starter motor. Admision valve prevents the suction. If there is suction will be also "exhaustion"... right ? well, the plug/paper is not being spitted out either on exhaust stroke. Just blows out when the comnpression stroke comes in. God... I have made it many times!!! Its like the ohms law! the flow will go throught the less resistant path! having any kind of plug, air will leave and get in just throught the valves. The minimal amount of suction or exhaustin over the plug won't affect it having the valves in working order. It's the power stroke that will cause suction during down stroke with both valves closed. If you don't believe it, go out in the garage, pull a plug, put your finger on the hole and crank it over.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2618559 02/08/19 05:27 AM 02/08/19 05:27 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	The paper or the plug used was already blown out due the previous compresion stroke by then which is the goal on this Once again, come on! I have made it many times! And the paper ball has being bever sucked in! It is of course a bit bigger than the hole and even being able to, somehow, get threated into the hole This is allmost becoming like the eternal ammeter/alt upgrade discussion... LOL, for lot of guys I'm crazy and I'm using my imagination inventing everything LOL With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: NachoRT74] #2618575 02/08/19 10:18 AM 02/08/19 10:18 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,314 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,314 Prospect, PA	Not sure if that was directed to me. I have made no comment on whether your little paper wad or a plug would get sucked in. I have no idea the physical details of either. Frankly finding TDC is so easy I would have never thought of it as a trick. But you are the one that implied that it was impossible to have suction because the intake valve was open. I think you said it twice. I simply pointed out that you were incorrect.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2618587 02/08/19 11:35 AM 02/08/19 11:35 AM
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360view Moparts resident spammer 3 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,162 USA	Seeing those spark plug thread whistles brings up the cheapskate idea of copying the expensive NASCAR cylinder compression ratio tester ($4700) cheaply. Mount a “slide whistle” to spark plug threads, pipe a steady air supply to it from a battery powered mattress inflator, then use a smartphone microphone along with an APP to measure the frequency of the low frequency sound at bottom dead center, and the higher frequency sound at top dead center.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: BSB67] #2618854 02/08/19 09:58 PM 02/08/19 09:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Originally Posted By BSB67 Not sure if that was directed to me Yes but no LOL. Actually being general. Originally Posted By BSB67 But you are the one that implied that it was impossible to have suction because the intake valve was open. I think you said it twice. I simply pointed out that you were incorrect. yes, correct, but on this case after the plug was already spitted out . I meant because the plug won't be sucked on that moment because there is not a plug on that moment . and still, I have made it many times installing a plug there without consider that and never have had anykind of plug made being sucked in With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2618877 02/08/19 11:32 PM 02/08/19 11:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,825 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,825 Kirkland, Washington	Unless you happen to start the process at TDC on the compression/power stroke. Then....suck city.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2619114 02/09/19 04:56 PM 02/09/19 04:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Ok, never it happened to me... I plugged on any time it was without pay attention to the stroke it was and it never happened to me. Maybe some time met the power stroke and it has NEVER happened to me With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

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