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Re: Factory Showdown and SS/AH allowed in Comp
[Re: theraif]
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02/01/19 09:14 PM
02/01/19 09:14 PM
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So. Burlington, Vt.
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It appears the current CIC doesn’t kick in at all until .610 under, in eliminations.
At .710 under, during eliminations, there’s a permanent index adjustment.
It certainly doesn’t look like a ss/ah car will be very competitive at the typical ET’s they run.
I wonder how many takers they’ll get.
As per nhra 2016:
“A new “Personal Index” is being added to the CIC system, to decrease the potential for class index adjustments when favorable conditions at an event may contribute to extraordinary performances that may not be the case in other parts of the country. The personal index will be applied when an individual records a .610 under or greater run during eliminations. The class index will only be adjusted when a run of .710 or greater is recorded during eliminations. Both will be adjusted on .01 increments with no plateaus up to a .10 maximum adjustment per event to a class index.”
What isn’t clear to me at the moment is whether this particular CIC rule only pertains to runs made during what are deemed “mineshaft” conditions, of if it’s just the way the CIC is now being done.
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Re: Factory Showdown and SS/AH allowed in Comp
[Re: CMcAllister]
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02/02/19 04:58 AM
02/02/19 04:58 AM
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northwest USA
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If you run over .50 under in eliminations, you get hit with the amount that you went under for the rest of the event. Over .50 under that and you get hit again. It's not permanent until you go .60 under. They are always tinkering with the CIC, but I believe that's correct.
Qualifying doesn't count. At the last race in Pomona, 23 cars showed up, #1 qualifier went .72 under and the #21 guy was .488. So a Hemi car in AH/SM, the new class designation, going .35 under at 8.40, is going to need some help. Yes this is correct. NHRA isn't doing the AH cars any favors with this move.
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Re: Factory Showdown and SS/AH allowed in Comp
[Re: NANKET]
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02/02/19 05:34 AM
02/02/19 05:34 AM
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If you run over .50 under in eliminations, you get hit with the amount that you went under for the rest of the event. Over .50 under that and you get hit again. It's not permanent until you go .60 under. They are always tinkering with the CIC, but I believe that's correct.
Qualifying doesn't count. At the last race in Pomona, 23 cars showed up, #1 qualifier went .72 under and the #21 guy was .488. So a Hemi car in AH/SM, the new class designation, going .35 under at 8.40, is going to need some help. Yes this is correct. NHRA isn't doing the AH cars any favors with this move. And the manufacturers aren't looking to move any AH cars........coincidence ? I'm not so sure.
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Re: Factory Showdown and SS/AH allowed in Comp
[Re: Dave Hall]
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02/02/19 01:42 PM
02/02/19 01:42 PM
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Tulsa, Oklahoma
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Comp is still a bracket race. Ask Dan Fletcher... Well Mr. Fletcher has forgotten more about all of drag racing than I will ever know. However I don't see where anybody can say Comp is a bracket race. 1. You don't set your dial. 2. There are no breakouts. Its handicap racing for sure, but not bracket racing. Another observation is that I think this makes sense for the FS/XX cars as they only have eight races a year in FS/XX trim. However the SS/AH cars can run Super Stock at every national event. Between that and the tough index that does not make much sense to me but I might be missing something.
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