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Finish line rules #2613178
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What are your local track rules on finish line racing? The rules as far as I can tell is kinda a grey area... Obviously if you cross the center line or hit the wall your disqualified. I've had pretty good success at times losing 10 mph or so on the Finnish line and have got some flack for some smoke off the front tires.. just wondering what is your opinion or your tracks opinion on the matter.

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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613184
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One of the Emmons brothers from Texas was thrown out of a Nat. event in Phoenix for "Excessive Braking". 120mph car. Evidently he was warned in Pomona two weeks before. Meanwhile Funny cars and Pro-Mods are bouncing off the wall at 250mph plus. Stupid rules if you ask me. Out of control is out of control. If you're not tossing a salad in the other guys lane there should be no penalty.

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NHRA will disqualify you for doing that unless your opponent does it worst scope
Is your local track a NHRA affiliate and insured with the same company with the same set of rules work
BTW, when you race at any track you have to use and follow their rules and you should know all of them to avoid conflict up scope

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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613193
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I have seen the aftermath of excessive braking a couple of times with destroyed cars. It is just plain stupid to hit your brakes hard on the top end. Dial it hard cut a light and race it. If I were a race official at the top end any tire smoke or wobble you are gone.


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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613194
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You have to use common sense. You can definitely knock off some ET at the strip safely. Smoking the tires? Why would it be necessary? Personally I know well before the stripe if I'm going to get there early or late. Unless you set-up to bag a ton.
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Excessive braking (tire smoke) is most often is a first offence warning, second disqualification.
If you need to break that hard to stay under a dial you probably should dial a little tighter twocents
There have been many examples of racers looping, sliding into the wall or opponents lane trying scrub off speed too aggressively hence the rule.
other than that I can not think of any Finish line rules


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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613201
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NHRA has observers at the national events looking for all kinds of stuff. Excessive braking, pulling off safety equipment before you got off the track, funny blinking lights, etc. They're on a schedule and don't want to have to clean up a mess or have people get hurt. Local tracks and divisionals, luck of the draw. I've seen flat tires and wrecked cars from it. Kind of stupid, but people still do it. Guys like the 4 caliper rear brake kits for that so they don't slide the front tires.

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Re: Finish line rules [Re: CMcAllister] #2613204
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
NHRA has observers at the national events looking for all kinds of stuff. pulling off safety equipment before you got off the track, funny blinking lights, etc.

Forgot about the safety equip stuff


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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613221
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Seriously , I am from the tighten up your package camp.......if I am trying to kill more than 8-10 m.p.h. , I already screwed up.

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The point of my post was not to start a poop show... I was just asking what your tracks rule was on the matter... Because the rules are very vague on the matter.

For those of you that say I'm stupid to "drive" the finish line, I would love to race you! You are the easy ones to load on the trailer....

Jeff.


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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613285
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I don't know that my local track has a rule, and there's no one down there all day watching for it. Most local places are probably the same. I watch some of the high dollar stuff that's live stream and there's some aggressive finish line braking seen there on occasion. I guess it's part of the game. A lot of different finish line strategies in use.


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Are cars required to have operational brake lights so whatever they are doing, its obvious to everybody?


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Originally Posted By jcc
Are cars required to have operational brake lights so whatever they are doing, its obvious to everybody?


As far as I know just one red "running" light. No functioning brake light.


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Re: Finish line rules [Re: mills.mopar] #2613303
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"Great save"! "WOW! what a great job of driving and keeping it off the wall"! Like the pic of Tim Fletcher. Guy totally screwed the pooch and tossed a salad and got LUCKY! NOT a great driving job! If you're locking up the tires it's probably not so good. I will say that I have broken hats right off the wheel hitting the brakes too hard. Won a divisional with that broken hat as it happened rd. 4 and I got a bye to the final. Hurt my back too! If there's is tire smoke and sliding the car all tracks will warn you once and throw you out the next time because they will be watching you.

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What is "tossed a salad"?


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In Fletcher's case they claimed "brake malfunction".

Kid from my area got tossed at 4 cars at a national event for smoking the tires after the finish line and crossing lanes on a pass he won. Luckily the other car was already by him. He got excited and tossed it into reverse.


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Originally Posted By mills.mopar

For those of you that say I'm stupid to "drive" the finish line, I would love to race you!

I read through the entire post......I missed anyone calling anyone stupid.
I think the consensus is clear......if you smoke the fronts going through the lights , you are going to attract some official attention.
And it seems like most feel it is justified.
If you can " drive the finish line " and not smoke your front tires or veer into the wall , then you have done nothing wrong from my chair.
Our approach has always been to run our race and let the chips fall where they may.
Whoever is in the other lane is not all that important.
Certainly not as important as they think.

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Originally Posted By mills.mopar
I was just asking what your tracks rule was on the matter... Because the rules are very vague on the matter.

For those of you that say I'm stupid to "drive" the finish line, I would love to race you! You are the easy ones to load on the trailer....

Jeff.

Which rules are vague, your track rules or NHRA rules?
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