Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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I'D bet he would get into the 10's with a thumperized tater! Been 10's already... Not w/o your bottle...
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Anyone have experience w/ the HP-style 8082 1050? I'd heard that's more like the old-style 9375, in that it's a 2-circuit intended for a single 4-bbl application. It's not one of the fancy "new gen" billet series, though.
I’ve run a few motors with them. They didn’t really behave much differently on the dyno than a 3 circuit. The part throttle, light load throttle position still had the blades below the 3rd circuit discharge tubes, and most of the part throttle richness is coming thru the transfer slots. That’s having the motor at about 3000rpm with a 50hp load on it. My old school pre-HP 9375 3 circuit has pretty nice low speed manners with some TS restrictors and a primary metering block that accommodates a PV so it can run smaller main jetting. Those early ones have a huge hole for the air bleed on the 3rd circuit, so it’s not that much of a player.
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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I've had a bunch of different old style, non HP, 1050 CFM Dominators. I didn't try to tune the 8082 though and got rid of it to buy another List# 9375 I'm trying to remember another Holley 1050 CFM List number that I think may nave been 8086, 8680 or something close to that, I didn't like it either for foot brake drag racing I have tried and tested the later version HP-2 with the same List numbers and didn't like them either
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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I’ve never run any ootb, as from Holley 4500 carb that I felt had “good” low speed manners.
I have however tested many of them where the a/f ratio is in the 7’s or 8’s at light part throttle operation.
That’s a little tough on plugs.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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I'D bet he would get into the 10's with a thumperized tater! Been 10's already... Not w/o your bottle... Did 100 mph in the 1/8th on a below sea level morning...Unfortunately at an 1/8 mile track.
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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I'D bet he would get into the 10's with a thumperized tater! Been 10's already... Not w/o your bottle... Did 100 mph in the 1/8th on a below sea level morning...Unfortunately at an 1/8 mile track. You're about 10.9x MPH, but I don't think you have 10.9x 60-ft times.
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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mine runs alright on the street for a daily , mine is the newer sportsman aluminium unit . You will need to address T slot jetting , PVCR jetting and lower the idle feed restrictor . A bit time consuming . I did try an adapter - what a waste of time and money . I feel , my experience , that whilst a 4500 is better than a 4150 if your heads are the restriction you may not see a big gain . I picked up more consistency with cnc stealths and 4500 carb/intake but less than a 1/10th . Put TF270s on and picked up just over 1/4 second , same intake and carb . Oh and fuel consumption on street and strip went south with the 4500 , but I accept that trade off for the et and mph gain Hey its a race car I drive daily
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Years and years ago I had a '66 GT Dart with a 9375 out of the box dominator and a 528 wedge. It run and I drove the car, but had some problems with the plug life. And the engine always felt a little lazy or "heavy" with the throttle response. It run well at full throttle though running 10.0's in the 1/4.
Then a friend of mine wanted to borrow the car, trying to get it in to 9's. He made some changes, used race gas, removed the exhaust and most importantly changed the carb. It was one out of a pro stocker tunnel ram and with the change the engine changed like night and day. It had a very crisp throttle response, a totally diffrent animal. He didn't get the 9 though, running 0.05 under my best so far and ending with 10.002..
Anyway, the carb was built by Chuck Nuytten, so I contacted him and asked if he could make me a pro street dominator, which he did. Probably one of my best purchases, got the crisp throttle response, great mileage, clean plugs etc etc. Got over 11 mpg on the highway and about 8 in the city. Doesn't sound like much, but the car had 4.10 gears and the engine was dynoed making 780 hp.
So, it definitely can be done.
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Ive run a 1050 on the street for at least 15 years.Idles a bit high with the radical cam and 12.5 pistons but runs good.Plugs stay clean and havent fouled any in years.Best plugs are NGKs in my opinion.Rocky
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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I'd never recommend a 3 circuit for the street... ... Dominic, Thumper Dart,760-900-3895, can fix them up for anyone wanting to drive a 3 circuit on the street Yeah, but they're not 3-circuits any longer once he's gone through 'em. Anyone have experience w/ the HP-style 8082 1050? I'd heard that's more like the old-style 9375, in that it's a 2-circuit intended for a single 4-bbl application. It's not one of the fancy "new gen" billet series, though. I’ve built a few 8082’s. Like stated they all need transfer slot restrictions. The newer ones have smaller ifr’s but they are in the high position. Old ones need to be converted to annular boosters. They are great carbs on 500 cubes on the street.
68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780# 69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Depends on how streetable lol I ran this hemi with a roller and pair of worked 1050s on 93 pump gas on street. I loved it
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Depends on how streetable lol I ran this hemi with a roller and pair of worked 1050s on 93 pump gas on street. I loved it 2 carbs and 2 mags. Can't beat that!
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Well the "mags" were empty. A med 7al2 a crank trigger. 2 could were used. The "mags" were just the pointer Both did fire thou
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Re: Can you make a Dominator carb streetable?
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Well, all I can say is a 3 circuit has been many times over for me the only way to smooth out the transitions for part throttle, and smooth transition. Like someone else said transfer is the problem. Of course you have to work on every aspect of them no matter. You just run out of options with 2 circuit.
As for them gas washing cylinders driving them, that would for sure be an out of the ball park, out of wack carb.
Blowers, and 2 4 tunnel rams make them easier to manage for street driving. A single 4 is the hardest to make work smoothly. Softer signal makes them react more smoothly. Big signal on a single is great for the track but hard to soften on the street. Again, assuming we're talking about something with almost no vac.
The biggest disasters of Doms on the street, is when they're on small cam engines with tons of vac, that they don't belong on in the first place.
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