Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Drilling Phenolic spacer ? #2603100
01/07/19 08:58 PM
01/07/19 08:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline OP
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline OP
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Just curious if anyone has tried that ? I want to try a Holley 950 HP carb on my 63 but it does not have the vacuum nipple in the back like my 850 does that I use for my PCV vacuum line. So since I use a 1" open phenolic spacer I was thinking of drilling it and adding a vacuum nipple for my PCV system ? I don't see why it cant be drilled and tapped for the nipple ? Ron

Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2603110
01/07/19 09:24 PM
01/07/19 09:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,696
Bitopia
J
jcc Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc  Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
J

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,696
Bitopia
I think just using a sharp bit in a drill press to control feed would be best, tapping, never done that before bump


https://www.alro.com/datapdf/plastics/plasticsmsds/msds_phenolicce.pdf

Last edited by jcc; 01/10/19 05:10 PM.

Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2603113
01/07/19 09:26 PM
01/07/19 09:26 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
Supercuda Offline
About to go away
Supercuda  Offline
About to go away

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
google it, seems dust is an issue


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: Supercuda] #2603221
01/08/19 12:58 AM
01/08/19 12:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,718
North Dakota
6PakBee Offline
I Live Here
6PakBee  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,718
North Dakota
I've drilled them before. Best to drill a pilot hole first. Then a hole that is the ID of the tubing you want and then a final hole slightly larger than the tubing OD about 90% of the way through. This gives you a step that you can use when you epoxy the tube into the spacer. Never had luck trying to tap phenolic.


"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2603222
01/08/19 01:00 AM
01/08/19 01:00 AM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,872
Ontario, Canada
S
Stanton Offline
Don't question me!
Stanton  Offline
Don't question me!
S

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,872
Ontario, Canada
The resins vary but basically its no different than drilling fiberglass. I can't see drilling kicking up much dust to the point it would be an issue unless you're close enough to snort it. You want to start with a small pilot hole for sure. Keep in mind the layers are usually a cloth or canvas so use a sharp bit so it will cut clean.

Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: Stanton] #2603300
01/08/19 05:08 AM
01/08/19 05:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 141
Pennsylvania
P
polaris400cc Offline
member
polaris400cc  Offline
member
P

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 141
Pennsylvania
Drill and tap just as you would anything else.
drill, Pipe tap, thread sealant and put your nipple in.

Machine shops all around the US use phenolic sheets as hold down fixtures, jigs, and tooling. For all sorts of stuff from one off fixtures to assembly tools, nothing special about working with it.

Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: polaris400cc] #2603407
01/08/19 01:41 PM
01/08/19 01:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,718
North Dakota
6PakBee Offline
I Live Here
6PakBee  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,718
North Dakota
Originally Posted By polaris400cc
Drill and tap just as you would anything else.
drill, Pipe tap, thread sealant and put your nipple in.

Machine shops all around the US use phenolic sheets as hold down fixtures, jigs, and tooling. For all sorts of stuff from one off fixtures to assembly tools, nothing special about working with it.


It's been my experience trying to drill and tap a phenolic carburetor spacer that the tap, because of the taper, will split the spacer at the hole. Now maybe I've had inferior spacers or dull taps but that's my experience.


"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2603447
01/08/19 03:14 PM
01/08/19 03:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,845
S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY Offline
I Live Here
ZIPPY  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,845
S.E. Michigan
Hey Ron, you know, if I remember right I think the 950 and 850 both have 1 and 3/4 butterflies in the baseplate.

Might be able to just swap the baseplate for the test and see how it goes?

Just a thought


Rich H.

Esse Quam Videri




Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2603756
01/09/19 03:13 AM
01/09/19 03:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline OP
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline OP
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Thanks for all the kind replies. I pulled the spacer off today and drilled and tapped it. I was very careful and took my time as I was worried it might crack but it worked out ok. So I finished up the mods on my 950 and plan to put it back on the car one day this week when I feel up to it. And I hope to try it at the track in April or May if I can make it to the track. Thanks again for the replies. Ron

Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: ZIPPY] #2603757
01/09/19 03:14 AM
01/09/19 03:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline OP
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline OP
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Originally Posted By ZIPPY
Hey Ron, you know, if I remember right I think the 950 and 850 both have 1 and 3/4 butterflies in the baseplate.

Might be able to just swap the baseplate for the test and see how it goes?

Just a thought



Good thought and if it had not worked I might have checked it out. Thanks , Ron

Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2603901
01/09/19 02:29 PM
01/09/19 02:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,820
Connecticut
FurryStump Offline
master
FurryStump  Offline
master

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,820
Connecticut
I know you got it tapped, but if you have issues of the fitting coming loose you may be able to epoxy an fitting in the hole.


best of 11.39 at 117 mph 1.60 60’. 68 340 S Barracuda Fastback F.A.S.T [IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/2mnnnnt.jpg[/IMG]
Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: FurryStump] #2604219
01/10/19 12:56 AM
01/10/19 12:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline OP
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline OP
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Originally Posted By FurryStump
I know you got it tapped, but if you have issues of the fitting coming loose you may be able to epoxy an fitting in the hole.




I was going to put some epoxy on the threads but it went in on the tight side so I don't think its coming loose. But I wil keep an eye on it. Ron

Last edited by 383man; 01/10/19 12:56 AM.
Re: Drilling Phenolic spacer ? [Re: 383man] #2604403
01/10/19 01:42 PM
01/10/19 01:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,406
north of coder
moparx Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"
moparx  Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,406
north of coder
i know i'm late to the party [so what else is new ?], but when tapping plastics, a taper reamer for your desired pipe thread, makes things easier and prevents cracking.
glad you got it tapped ron. up taking it easy and using sharp tooling was the key.
beer







Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1