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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: racerx] #2572267
10/31/18 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By racerx
^^^Always wonder the advantages of the 60/65 roller option^^^


less deflection under load. With high spring pressures and boost taking its toll on the exhaust side that's where the larger cams shine.


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: ] #2572303
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Originally Posted By crabman173
Low deck is the hip deal in Pro stock etc because they get it--Bigger bore shorter stroke makes HP!! BUT..you have to turn it insane amount of RPM
Well...Not insane for Them with the finest parts on the planet BUT for us--the ones on this site that mostly bracket race--High RPM builds are silly if you are doing them on an average racers budget and if you have a budget well..you call an engine shop tell them what you weigh, trans, etc and how fast you want to go then you go pay up and load up and you DO NOT design it yourself--Because you do not know what they know
Just because you have scissors--don't make you a barber




I absolutely understand stroke/bore and RPM and making horsepower, but we are talking about guys running stroker stuff.

If I never see a stroke over 3.79 for a small block and 4.25 for a big block it wouldn't hurt my feelings.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2572305
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FWIW I have had TWO low deck KB blocks and believe they have a place. But admittedly the sales numbers probably do not justify having the availability. FWIW both mine were over 1000 hp deals, for us weight freaks it was a nice option to have every ounce counts I guess smile


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Al_Alguire] #2572883
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Apology for slow reply. I'm wearing a few hats at the moment. Lol.

Our Race block is a maximum performance engine block. We made design revisions to best set us up for the future, taking full advantage of new developments that add to the strength of engines built with our blocks.

There are other options available in the market for anyone seeking a lesser option or looking to recycle existing parts. The orders we have already received for use with a 60mm cam, have been overwhelming.

Alternatively, our Dealers can machine one of our 'Pro' blocks for 55mm core camshafts. Important to where we position our HEMI, WEDGE and upcoming engine block products is that we never want them to be 'the almost strongest' engine blocks.


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2572888
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Here's some more info for people who are interested:

New oiling features provide the ability to feed high pressure oil straight into the block & main oil galley:



New External Oil Feed Feature.pngIMG_1232(web)(rear).jpgBlock-new-oil-features.JPG

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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2572904
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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: racerx] #2572919
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All our blocks now come with 4340 Billet main bearing caps STD.
5/8-9/16 primary main studs w/ blind-tapped, rolled threads machined into block.
4 x 1/2 in cross bolts per cap on #2, #3, #4.
Large 0.250 in radii on main bearing bulkheads by design.

caps2.JPGIMG_0403 (002)(no5 cap)(web).jpgIMG_0417 (002)(caps)(web).jpg

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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2572944
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That is sexy looking, Darren your influencing me to almost want to build a a G2 again, instead of a G3

Great work , that block looks like one stout piece.


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2573330
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Originally Posted By DarrenB
Here's some more info for people who are interested:

New oiling features provide the ability to feed high pressure oil straight into the block & main oil galley:



Did the earlier blocks have an oil feed in the side of the block right in the area below the head?

Never mind this ? there's plenty of pic here on Best machine fb page. up

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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: racerx] #2573526
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No provisions on the old block .


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Originally Posted By DarrenB
No provisions on the old block .

Thaxs up

Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2573724
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Wow. That's a whole lot of pretty parts there...


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: OhioMopar] #2584066
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Our new HEMI engine blocks being machined ...

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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2584190
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Awesome, now I just need to hit the lotto.....


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: 6PKRTSE] #2584312
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Originally Posted By 6PKRTSE
Awesome, now I just need to hit the lotto.....


For what that block will cost new, Alot of people don't even have that much in the whole car....😁


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Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2584338
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Premium item, small number of buyers, premium price follows.

I think there are plenty of people who, after buying a new kb will part with their indy, or mega, or whatever. That will make a fair supply of good quality stuff for guys on a tighter budget that might not have been previously available...

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Man, that is some nice stuff. What would be the biggest bore for that block? Are you going to offer blocks with different bore spacing? Are all of your blocks water blocks or is there a solid block option? Rumor has it that the Indy solid block is stronger than their own water block. Does the same hold true for your blocks?

Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Old School] #2584432
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Originally Posted By Old School
Originally Posted By 6PKRTSE
Awesome, now I just need to hit the lotto.....


For what that block will cost new, Alot of people don't even have that much in the whole car....😁
Prove it, show receipts.

Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: Keith Black®] #2584445
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That's nice boogie any wedges being machine yet?

Re: Keith Black, Inc. - New HEMI and WEDGE engine blocks [Re: racerx] #2584573
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Originally Posted By racerx
That's nice boogie any wedges being machine yet?


Racerx, We're doing HEMI's and WEDGE's.


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