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Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. #2574792
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I'm about to start working on my Super Bee to have it ready to go for spring of 2019. One of the first needs is a driveshaft. I plan on changing the Super Stock springs out for a pair of mono-leafs before it hits the road again. My question is, should I wait until I change the springs before I order the driveshaft? I had never thought about it, but someone mentioned to me that I should wait to install the springs before I order.


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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2574801
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I would for sure wait until the springs are in.


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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2574809
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If you order the springs with the same front segment measurement you don't have to do springs first. Are you going with caltracs?


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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: JAKE68] #2574821
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My thought is Caltrac springs and Assassin Bars.


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2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2574824
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Personally I would wait but I use driveline service in Pittsburgh and if I call today I usually pick up my driveshaft tomorrow. I had one shortened once and picked it up the same day


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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2574871
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Cal trac mono's and assassin bars? Why the mismatch? Why not the whole shebang from Cal trac? Just curious.

I ordered mine as a package, got free shipping and a discount, and it all works together.
http://4secondsflat.com/CalTracs.html

Ya' I see now. The assassin bars look like a better build, more adjust ability.

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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: Moparteacher] #2575046
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Originally Posted By Moparteacher


The assassin bars look like a better build, more adjust ability.

Adjustability is what I was interested in. But I want the lighter spring than the heavy Super Stocks I have now.


1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2575076
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The wider range of adjustability is great, if you know how the various changes affect the way the car works. Otherwise, simpler is better and reduces the risk of getting lost in the process of getting the suspension dialed in.

Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: BradH] #2575101
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Originally Posted By BradH
The wider range of adjustability is great, if you know how the various changes affect the way the car works. Otherwise, simpler is better and reduces the risk of getting lost in the process of getting the suspension dialed in.

Good point. I still like the Smith Racecraft bars better.


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2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2575106
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By BradH
The wider range of adjustability is great, if you know how the various changes affect the way the car works. Otherwise, simpler is better and reduces the risk of getting lost in the process of getting the suspension dialed in.

Good point. I still like the Smith Racecraft bars better.

What is your ET goal?

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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By Moparteacher


The assassin bars look like a better build, more adjust ability.

Adjustability is what I was interested in. But I want the lighter spring than the heavy Super Stocks I have now.



How much lighter are the split mono's?

My springs are marginal. Not sure if the cost difference is worth the weight savings.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: BradH] #2575117
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Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By BradH
The wider range of adjustability is great, if you know how the various changes affect the way the car works. Otherwise, simpler is better and reduces the risk of getting lost in the process of getting the suspension dialed in.

Good point. I still like the Smith Racecraft bars better.

What is your ET goal?

Absolutely as fast as I can get out of it. I have handicaps involved(heavy, clutch, 3.54 gear), but I'd like to hit 11.00's, then upgrade the top end of the engine.


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1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
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2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: madscientist] #2575130
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Originally Posted By madscientist


How much lighter are the split mono's?

My springs are marginal. Not sure if the cost difference is worth the weight savings.


I don't have a number in front of me, but the weight is significant, from what I understand. I'm sure someone here knows.


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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2575215
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One thing I don't like about the Assassin bars is you have to drill a hole in the spring to mount the front pivot point. Plenty of quick cars with either set up.

Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2575233
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I didn't weigh my Cal Trac set up but would guess the whole deal weighs close to a factory spring set up. Maybe someone here has weighed them.

Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2575338
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The Split Mono springs are roughly 52lbs per pair, which is about what one SS spring weighs.


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Originally Posted By johnnycuda
The Split Mono springs are roughly 52lbs per pair, which is about what one SS spring weighs.



About half the weight. I'm surprised.

Thanks for the info.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Split Mono-leaf and driveshafts. [Re: OhioMopar] #2575422
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By BradH

What is your ET goal?

Absolutely as fast as I can get out of it. I have handicaps involved(heavy, clutch, 3.54 gear), but I'd like to hit 11.00's, then upgrade the top end of the engine.

The fact that it's a stick car means the clutch type & setup is another variable into the whole track-tuning process. You're not taking the easy route, that's for sure.

BTW, my first Mopar was a '69 Super Bee 383 4-speed car. Wow, that was a loooooooooooooong time ago.

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I'd wait until you have the springs installed and measure to be sure.


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