Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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Just picked up a 440, it's got 9T 440 E & 8-14 on the block stamping, cast date of 6-28-78, weird left side exhaust manifold and the std size spark plugs, not the small ones used in the motor home blocks. Any idea what this was used in?
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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those manifolds were used in vans and some chassis trucks from what I know. I own 3 of them and used in turbo set up - bought from 3 different people. Seems they only put them on 1 side for some reason.
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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On a side note, that maltese cross means something in that particular eng was undersize/oversized (it'd likely be in the archives if someone dont chime in).
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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I was told by a few people on this forum that the little "sight-glass" thingie on the timing chain cover was used on 440's that went into motor homes. The seller of the 440 block I bought said it was from a motor home, and my timing chain cover also had this feature.
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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truck or motor home...on the plus side its got extra ribs on the side and its most likly a good block to build
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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I've only seen those valve covers on RV & van motors. In 30+ years, it may have been slightly molested. What are the casting numbers on the heads? The heads are 452's, casting dates on them are 1-25-78
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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Those mounts and valve covers were used in Class B and C motor homes. Class A used a different mount. The heads probably have steam ports on the exhaust valves. Motor home version of the 452. I have a set of those. I agree that it is a 79 model year RV. 78 was the last year in cars and pickups but I have seen them in 79 and 80 model year RV's
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Re: Strange 1979 440, what's it out of?
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6bbl definitely got it right
The 9 definitely means it was installed in a 1979 model year vehicle. The T means Trenton engine plant. The E means it came with a cast crank. The date is the date the engine was assembled. The last 440s were built in August of 1978 so this engine was one of the last 440s from the original molds. It took Chrysler another year to use up all of the 440s. I believe that there were some 1979 440 powered one ton pickups and vans.
Literature also says there were 413s being built into the late '70s. They were the heavier duty engines. The Maltese cross means undersized bearing journals.
Here's a quote that is pretty right:
Decoding Engine Stampings and Casting Numbers
Decoding the Stampings on Engine Pads: A .020 oversize cylinder bores Diamond Oversize tappets E Cast Crankshaft HP High Performance L or LC Low compression Maltese Cross .001" undersize main bearing journals Maltese Cross & an X .010" undersized crankshaft rod journals O.S. .005" oversize valve stems P Premium Fuel R Regular Fuel RX or MX All main and rod journals .010" undersized S Special engine WT or TW Water Test X .010" undersize crankshaft
Decoding the Year Codes for B & RB Engines: (Stamped on engine pad) A 1965 B 1966 C 1967 D 1968 E 1969 F 1970 G 1971 H 1972 J 1973 P 1960 R 1961 S 1962 T 1963 V 1964 4T 1974 5T 1975 6T 1976 7T 1977 8T 1978 We have visual proof of a 9T as well, but that's all, folks!
Chrysler had a fire sale and declared they were going out of the bigblock business forever. They scrapped the molds and I remember seeing brand new 452 heads selling bare for $60 apiece. 400 shortblocks in crates were $400, and a cast 440 crank was something like $80. Of course, I didn't have any money at the time so they are only memories.
R.
If the "440" had a "T" after it, that meant the engine came in a truck.
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