Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Were they just deemed unnecessary, or are they just saving money? If my old hose had one I would have transferred it.
I think there's a possibility the hose may have collapsed a couple times in my Power Wagon while in traffic on hot day. Gauge shot up. Everything new including hoses, max cooling rad, milodon thermostat, milodon water pump, block flushed, new freeze plugs, and coolant distilled water mix. I couldn't get out and look at hose in traffic. I guess gauge could be faulty but temps went right back down when traffic started moving again.
Why did they remove springs?
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Gauge shot up. I guess gauge could be faulty but temps went right back down when traffic started moving again. Electric gauges? I'm thinking just normal temp bump from less air/water flow at idle.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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So can one buy a replacement spring to put in a lower hose, if you wanted one?
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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So can one buy a replacement spring to put in a lower hose, if you wanted one? I went to the local auto parts stores and bought a universal corrugated hose with a spring in it for 10.00. Pulled it and installed in my hose.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Were they just deemed unnecessary, or are they just saving money? If my old hose had one I would have transferred it.
I think there's a possibility the hose may have collapsed a couple times in my Power Wagon while in traffic on hot day. Gauge shot up. Everything new including hoses, max cooling rad, milodon thermostat, milodon water pump, block flushed, new freeze plugs, and coolant distilled water mix. I couldn't get out and look at hose in traffic. I guess gauge could be faulty but temps went right back down when traffic started moving again.
Why did they remove springs? It is my understanding that cooling issues in the conditions you describe is a cooling system issue, and that the high temps on the highway are related to the lower hose collapsing.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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the 15 psi inside a proper cooling system should easily keep the hose from collapsing.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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(sarcastic statement) Is this something they look for when judging a vehicle at the concours level?
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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(sarcastic statement) Is this something they look for when judging a vehicle at the concours level? Its called the Charmin Test. It is in the Judging Guide, look it up.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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if your lower hose is collapsing your problem is not lack of a spring. It is something else.
Why does it collapse and what causes the condition needed? It's not lack of a spring.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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the 15 psi inside a proper cooling system should easily keep the hose from collapsing. I'm pretty sure that's not how it works There is only 15 psi in the entire system when the temperature is quite high. At 180 degrees there is a few psi on the output side of the water pump (that's what moves the coolant through the radiator, heads, block...) but the inlet side can very well be under suction. A lower hose collapses because it's being sucked in, which by definition means there is negative pressure inside it. Now if there's a restriction in a clogged-up radiator, it's even more likely that the water pump will have vacuum at its inlet (the lower hose)...
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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If the no spring is causing it to overheat at idle/low speed I would think it would be worse at high speed on the highway (with higher suction on the hose if that is linear) & he says it is OK then.
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