Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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Bigger bore is more power.
It's that's simple.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/03/18 10:53 PM
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The BB has crappy valve placement so it can not take advantage of the big bore like it should, it also weighs #100 more plus asuming an auto trans you have to run the 727 instead of the 904 you can run with a 408 for more weight savings less drag and better 1st gear ratio option and is harder to do plugs and such, I would go SB 408.
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/03/18 11:01 PM
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Small block all day long. Wouldn't fool with a big block under 500". As mentioned, extra weight, less desirable trans choices.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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It might come down to what you have to start with. I haven't built one yet, but here is a combo i think would work well, and cheap, too! One option is a 400 block, 4.375 bore, offset grind a 383 crank to 3.54 stroke, use 7.10 bb chev h beam rods, shelf stock 1.12 compression height pistons for 426 cheap cubes. Add a .590 MP cam, 2 inch x 40 inch headers. Should make 575 to 600 hp, cheaply.
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/04/18 12:26 AM
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If these posts would start out saying how quick you would like to go you would get better info. At 3000 pounds if you are happy running high 9's or slower on a budget small block. Low 9's or quicker big block. Small blocks are so much easier to work on for clearance reasons.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/04/18 01:05 AM
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10.0 in the heat coast summer, so 9.50-9.7. 3200? Weight or less Fuel? Track average adjusted alt? Info available online Street and strip or strip only?
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/04/18 12:17 PM
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9.5-9.7@3200lbs??
675-700hp....... with a car that is somewhat sorted out.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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One thing to consider is, do you want to reach a certain goal and stay there, or are you someone that wants to go faster as time goes by? If faster is the goal, then focus your sites further down the road. The two most important rules to follow: 1 weight reduction is cheaper than horsepower 2cubic inches rule How you put your program together now will have immense effect on your situation down the road. In my case, another year off racing, and a different course on my engine program and i would be running very low eights instead of 8.90s
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/05/18 05:24 AM
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What car is the engine going in? I'm guessing an A body? If so I'd go for the 408 as a SB is WAY easier to work on than a BB in a A body. I have both, BB car is quicker, but more of a pain to work on. I agree with that DusterKid. I tell my son the bigblock A-body is a young mans car since its hard to work on in some area's and the bigblock B-body is an old mans car since it has more room. As for the most part my 63 Sport Fury has more room to work on it then my sons 400 Dart does. Ron
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Re: 408 SB or 406 BB
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10/05/18 08:45 AM
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What car is the engine going in? I'm guessing an A body? If so I'd go for the 408 as a SB is WAY easier to work on than a BB in a A body. I have both, BB car is quicker, but more of a pain to work on. I agree with that DusterKid. I tell my son the bigblock A-body is a young mans car since its hard to work on in some area's and the bigblock B-body is an old mans car since it has more room. As for the most part my 63 Sport Fury has more room to work on it then my sons 400 Dart does. Ron I'm gonna roll with Dusterkid and 383man on this one, I've built and owned multiple bb abodies with both underchassis and fender well Headers, fenderwells are nice for maintenance but unsightly for street exhaust and TTI underchassis are nice Headers to look at but jeez...so...if it's a coin toss on 408 vs 406 I'm going small block, which exactly the decision I made on the 67 Dart I'm building.
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