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69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. #2553516
09/23/18 07:34 AM
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Is it a true statement, that if I wanted to add an air grabber to my 69 Roadrunner with it's original non air grabber hood all I would need is the air grabber vented scoops and the fiberglass under hood box along with an air cleaner assembly and cable? My original hood appears to have the holes for the fiberglass box and don't want to do any drilling. Thanks.


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1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553525
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The hood structure is different between the two. Doo a Google search of an air grabber an non air grabber hood to see. Reason I know is I make the under hood insulation and it won’t fit on an air grabber hood because they never used insulation.


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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553536
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69 Parts Manual shows one hood for Road Runners. I have used non AG hoods and the AG ducts rivet on without modifying.

Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553577
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Same hood. Remove the blank inserts, bolt in the screens . Boxes mount with a combination of wide pop rivets and bolts with clips. All holes are already there, no paintwork needed.


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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553583
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That's great. I've had a couple of 69 RR air grabber cars in the past and it sure looked like it would work. Does anyone repop those screens or duct work needed?


1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553617
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I have put an airgrabber on a non-airgrabber car. It is easy. Sort of a fun project.

Moparplus.com, plus a few others sell the screens and gaskets.

Remember that you will need to do a 3-speed wiper motor if you haven’t got one already, and the real key there is the crank off the motor and the switch in the dash.

The rivets should be used, screws don’t look right, but they are easy to find. Ace Hardware has some that are a pretty good approximation of the original wide flange rivets. (Only certain fastening points use the rivets, so you have to look at a pic to figure which).

Finally, remember that the air cleaner base is different for a 383 versus a 440.


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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: Kowal] #2553620
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One more comment. I can speak first hand on this, but some people have said that the reproduction duct work doesn’t fit as well as original Mopar. What I did was find an original Mopar unit and then fixed a few cracks on it and painted it to look fresher and stock. There is a guy on Facebook out of Ohio that restores original duct work, just do a search on Air Grabber restoration. He does quite a few and might be able to help you.


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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553623
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I never had a problem swapping AG onto a non-AG hood when I had to replace a damaged hood with a used factory hood. Same scoop/vent housings too, just swap the blank ribbed panel for the screens. Actually had one AG that had double screens! The little retainers are a bit fussy, don't lose them.
Rivets are same as used on early Fox Mustang front bumper covers.
There are reproduction AG setups, never used one though. Not sure if anyone is reproducing screens, but maybe some place like McMaster-Carr would have that material; may be called expanded or wire mesh or something like that.
FWIW, I once swapped AG screens onto one of my non-AG RRs, and it brought underhood temps down quite a bit.

Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: topside] #2553647
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It's been awhile but I think the 68 underhood bracing has to be lightly modified to fit the Air Grabber. 69 hoods will work without modification.


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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553648
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This is the research I did when a few people bought my hood insulation to install on a hood that had an air grabber box that had been removed and said the clip holes didn't line up.

Do all Roadrunner hoods have the hood vents/scoops?

Maybe what I was up against was the difference between a flat hood (Belvedere, Satellite?) and hoods with the vents/scoops.

B 68-69 ROAD RUNNER AG AND NON AG HOOD COMPARISON.jpg

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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: 71TA] #2553653
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1969 RR/GTX hood ^^^^ VS. 1968 RR/GTX hood ^^^^

Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: 6bblgt] #2553659
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That's what I remember on the underside. Now that I think about it the 68 hoods did not have the outer skin scalloped either. So if you have a 68 hood you have to take a whiz wheel to the outer skin as well.


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Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2553759
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I have some extra AG parts.

I have had two hoods with double screens on one side and it looked to be because the small bent angled retainer brackets were missing on that side and the extra screen made up the difference so the clips would hold.

Re: 69 Roadrunner Air Grabber VS Non-Air grabber Hood Question. [Re: TimS] #2557359
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FYI, some 1969 hood scoops complete with screens and original hardware for sale in 3Q B-Body Parts for sale







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