Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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...was mid .30s to mid .40s at Indy. 218 to 220 MPH. I'd like to see them included in NHRA Pro Stock. Sure would liven it up. 100 pounds on the big motor cars, 100 off the 500"ers should get them close.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/04/18 08:21 PM
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Let the be-itching begin from the teams if this fly's. If it brings Ford and Mopar back into the mix I'm back as a spectator, as long as they also start looking like cars again instead of "cookie cutters"
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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...was mid .30s to mid .40s at Indy. 218 to 220 MPH. I'd like to see them included in NHRA Pro Stock. Sure would liven it up. 100 pounds on the big motor cars, 100 off the 500"ers should get them close. Never gonna work. Most of those guys campaigned those cars on the IHRA side because they gave them a place to race and they didnt have the wallets to be competetive on the NHRA side. Nothing has changed. Those guys will get “ outwalleted” in short order
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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They've been racing PDRA and putting on a good show. Dodges and Ferds in the mix. I don't think it costs as much to run a big motor car. I say get the weight break right and let them run.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/04/18 08:46 PM
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Never gonna work. Most of those guys campaigned those cars on the IHRA side because they gave them a place to race and they didnt have the wallets to be competetive on the NHRA side with 500" motors..
Fixed it for you. They had 2 tenths on the NHRA cars. Adjust that with weight and the 500s can compete with them.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/04/18 08:57 PM
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They've been racing PDRA and putting on a good show. Dodges and Ferds in the mix. I don't think it costs as much to run a big motor car. I say get the weight break right and let them run. Putting on a good show running 1/8 mile among themselves. The reason, as i said earlier, these guys are still racing is because they had/ have a place to race and didnt have to compete with NHRA money. A few of them ran NHRA and didnt have the funds or skill to go rounds. They dont have the teams or equipment.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 08:31 AM
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If they are playing "The Big Stage", maybe they can get the money.
It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.
Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 09:07 AM
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If they are playing "The Big Stage", maybe they can get the money. There is almost zero sponsor money being given out. Why so many are self funded or "sponsored" by the companies they own. The ROI as a sponsor in drag racing is terrible.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 10:03 AM
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A lot of the 500" cars are already on the ragged edge. Not sure you can take much weight out of them without dramatically effecting the handling of the car. Most people don't take into account just how refined the 500" cars are either. They are drag racing's F-1. 500", no power additive, and they go 6.60's at almost 210 mph. Faster with the carburetors. In my opinion, it makes the Mountain Motor cars look shameful when they have another 330-340" added to them to only run three tenths or so quicker.
I'm not trying to take anything away from the Mountain Motor cars, as I love that they still have carburetors and the big ol' hood scoops. I'm almost 30, and abhor fuel injection and computers. I'm all for letting them run in the class, but it truly does take away from the 500" cars.
As for the 400" cars running, sure, bring it on. At that point, you might as well go back to lbs./cubic inch and let the A-B-C/A Comp cars run too.
I think you would see an increase in class participation though if you let the 500" cars run carburetors again. Yeah, they're a little faster, make them add 50 lbs...since we're already on the topic of throwing all the weight around.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 02:50 PM
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I wouldn't want to see 20 legal combinations like it was before. That was a mess. Keep it simple. Two combos. Like Top Alcohol Dragster. Pick your poison. Easier for the casual fan to understand and for tech guys to stay on top of as well. Some of the lesser funded 500" teams that always qualify at the bottom might decide to go to the big motors as well.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 03:13 PM
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NA is cool and all but how about a spec turbo charger and keep the 500" limit.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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^ Sounds great. Adjust weights or whatever for parity and let the teams use whatever combo they chose. NA is cool and all but how about a spec turbo charger and keep the 500" limit. Then I would stop caring.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 07:04 PM
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I hope he does leave Tanner Gray makes me want to puke 🤮
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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I hope he does leave Tanner Gray makes me want to puke 🤮 Should be fun to watch when he loses his temper and starts running over people, which I think is what he wanted to do a few times in Pro Stock.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Mountain Motor Pro Stock
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09/05/18 07:38 PM
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I hope he does leave Tanner Gray makes me want to puke 🤮 Should be fun to watch when he loses his temper and starts running over people, which I think is what he wanted to do a few times in Pro Stock. He's a spoiled brat.
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