Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I have a Cheetah in the Valiant. I'm pretty lukewarm on it for now.
I have 2 different Quarter Sticks I have used. I will probably put one in the Valiant over the winter.
I also have a PPP that I bought for my Daytona. It is exceptionally nice, but pay very close attention when ordering.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Will it be for street/strip.. racing only.. you need to know that first.. I had a pro ratchet that was great for racing but its not a street style shifter.. the B&M thats in my Rampage is ok but I dont like that I have to be in drive to lift the lever for reverse and park
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Car will (hopefully) be mid 11’s, mostly on track with the occasional cruise night. I loved my B&M pro ratchet for racing.. I later mounted the electric shiftnoid on it.. worked perfect.. I never missed a shift with it
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Hurst quarter stick Nice, and relatively cheap.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Still using the same Turbo action shifter from the 80's. Pulled it from my Cuda when I started updating it and have used it in my Belvedere from the past 5 yrs. I will be getting another for the Cuda shortly. Never burnt a cable mine is 30 plus yrs old.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I like the Hurst Quarter Stick. I like the B&M Pro Stick better because it comes with a true Morse cable and better hardware. At least it used to. PPP is top shelf. Turbo Action/Winters shifter is like a dial telephone in a smartphone world.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I use a B&M Quicksilver. I purchased it back when the car was primarily a street only car. It still works well, but I’m not married to it. I do like the street musclecar look it offers. It uses a lift-action as the gate mechanism, so it is easily operated with one hand.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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That occasional 1-3 shift is why I got rid of my Cheetah and went with a pro Ratchet. Love it.
Hooked up a Shifnoid but haven't made it out this year.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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It’s kinda like you want one that’s fool proof and shifts perfect every time without thinking about it. Out of the three I’ve run.... that describes my PPP ....but I’ll be honest. A car that that’s going to see mostly street and some racing you probably don’t need to drop that kind of coin. Of course if your looking at the TCI Diablo, that ain’t no cheapie either. Looked it up online and the one “buzzword” that would bother me is the “...is a universal shifter designed for use with popular GM, Ford, and Chrysler vehicles, and can be configured for use with 2, 3, 4 and 6-speed transmissions (forward/reverse patterns)”. I’d really like to hear from somebody that runs one how it works. Ratchet shifters I prefer. Properly adjusted they put you in the gear you select PERIOD! T/A shifter is a gate shifter.... I got my car launching hard enough that it was making the 1-2 shift on its own. Between that and knowing what my dad went through I bought their other guide plate, but soon after sold it as I got a deal on a clean N PPP.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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B&M Pro-Ratchet is all I run in my street/strip cars. Put it in and never worry about it, and it's impossible to ever miss a gear.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I have a PPP in my Challenger. Very nice quality piece.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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The pro matic 2.... what i REALLY liked about this shifter in the Mirada was that I was able to graft it in to the factory council. Looked like it was born with it! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUkMXaLopIThe deal on the Duster was that we could never get it properly adjusted. Being it was “race” we concentrated on N and 123. Just could never find a happy medium. Both cars had Griner t-brakes and swapping the shift lever didn’t change a thing. Always figured something was just made “wrong” on that one.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Thats too much work lol I like my Turbo Action Shifter, its so smooth, and the lockout mechanism is good, yet seamless to use. I can see how the design might cause problems for some with the automatic 1-2 shift but mine has been a 1.43 60ft and hasn't done it yet.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I too like and use a PPP shifter.
They have a lot of options front or rear cable, push or pull upshift, air shift, Red or black.
Most people that say they don't like a PPP have NEVER used one. When I use a ratchet shifter I have Quickclick flashbacks.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I know some like them, but I abhor a ratchet shifter. Can't tell what gear you're in without trying to see the indicator or jacking the thing all the way to P or 3. Should be able to run it without thinking about it, looking at it, jacking with it.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Another vote for the B&M Pro Stick. I run one in the race car and one in my street car. Factory Slap Stick in my wife's `Cuda. Both shifters are great.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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B&M pro stick, this video shows that it doesn't just slap up into 3rd, but requires the handle to be squeezed? Is that right. Why would they do that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooXaFtrTGtURe the Pro ratchet, I have one and drive it around every weekend on the street. I'm never confused about what gear I'm in and if I ever do look at the shifter, e.g. sitting at a light to see if I'm in 1st (or I might just try to ratchet it back), it's certainly not anything that takes any thought or effort.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I too like and use a PPP shifter.
They have a lot of options front or rear cable, push or pull upshift, air shift, Red or black.
Most people that say they don't like a PPP have NEVER used one. When I use a ratchet shifter I have Quickclick flashbacks. 😳😳😡 I had one of those Quick clicks!! I hated it also! I’m sure there’s been upgrades, but you are correct, it’s scared me away from them. I truly appreciate all of the advice, and yes, that have gotten expensive. But in this hobby that we love, what is cheap? I’m thankful the advice here is!
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I put a pistol grip on my Pro Ratchet, I like it a lot better than the ball.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I know some like them, but I abhor a ratchet shifter. Can't tell what gear you're in without trying to see the indicator or jacking the thing all the way to P or 3. Should be able to run it without thinking about it, looking at it, jacking with it. ^^^ this
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I've had two ratchet shifters, not knowing what gear it's in has never been an issue.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I put a pistol grip on my Pro Ratchet, I like it a lot better than the ball. I like how you attached the pistol grip The Ramcharger I recently picked up had a pro ratchet with the pistol grip attached by just screwing on to the shifter arm, eventually it broke off due to the added leverage. your mount is much stronger thanks for the idea.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Mine broke too, hence the fix. Pulled into the staging lanes and "POP"...I went rounds, but it wasn't easy. It's an aluminum turn buckle from Lowes
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I have the reverse pattern and my shifter is mounter higher than your but I use 2 fingers to shift.. were little effort to shift.. I guess with your being lower you have to hit it a bit harder and it broke
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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My not liking the Cheetah shifter is I'd pull on it instead of slapping it, nothing I could do would break that habit. Once installed my ratchet shifter and the in cab GoPro, I noticed I'm slapping the ratchet shifter.
Go figure.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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The one thing I would do once in a while was not letting go of the shifter.. if you dont let go of it it dosent set up for the next shift but that was seldom I would do that( on my pro ratchet)
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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The GoPro pointed out I shift on the money when I leave 1st, when I'm chasing a slower vehicle I tend to shift late and bounce off the rev limiter. Hence the Shifnoid install. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb3HbfhJXXM
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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I put my shiftnoid on just for my issue of holding the shifter and I only did that about 5 times
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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B&M pro stick, this video shows that it doesn't just slap up into 3rd, but requires the handle to be squeezed? Is that right. Why would they do that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooXaFtrTGtURe the Pro ratchet, I have one and drive it around every weekend on the street. I'm never confused about what gear I'm in and if I ever do look at the shifter, e.g. sitting at a light to see if I'm in 1st (or I might just try to ratchet it back), it's certainly not anything that takes any thought or effort. Yes on the B & M Pro stick you just pull it back for second gear and then squeeze the handle to pull third. Its so simple a 4 year old kid could do it. From first you just pull it straight back and it wont go into third so you squeeze the lever when you pull it back for third. Its not hard so squeeze the lever as its very easy and takes very little effort. I love it as I like a shifter that moves its position for every gear. I don't like the ratchet shifter like my brother used to run where the shifter returns to the same spot after every shift. I went with the B & M Pro Stick because it was not a ton of money and is simple to use. Ron
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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B&M pro stick, this video shows that it doesn't just slap up into 3rd, but requires the handle to be squeezed? Is that right. Why would they do that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooXaFtrTGtURe the Pro ratchet, I have one and drive it around every weekend on the street. I'm never confused about what gear I'm in and if I ever do look at the shifter, e.g. sitting at a light to see if I'm in 1st (or I might just try to ratchet it back), it's certainly not anything that takes any thought or effort. Yes on the B & M Pro stick you just pull it back for second gear and then squeeze the handle to pull third. Its so simple a 4 year old kid could do it. From first you just pull it straight back and it wont go into third so you squeeze the lever when you pull it back for third. Its not hard so squeeze the lever as its very easy and takes very little effort. I love it as I like a shifter that moves its position for every gear. I don't like the ratchet shifter like my brother used to run where the shifter returns to the same spot after every shift. I went with the B & M Pro Stick because it was not a ton of money and is simple to use. Ron Putting the go pro in the car is a great idea! Ron, you hit the nail on the head. Something that's not a ton of money, but easy to use. I think I have a mental block about the shifter being in the same spot every time you shift....that's what I think, I know it's personal preference. This may just be the toughest decision I'll make on the whole dang car! I really appreciate all the help gang! Wally.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Man shifter prices have gone up. $384 for a TA cheetah, $303 for a B&M pro ratchet :|
I just looked at my summit receipt and the TA cheetah was $280 way back in 2014. if you haven't bought one I have a TA reverse pattern i'll ship it to you for $225. but I lost the little Crosby clamp that holds the cable to the trans. you can pick one up pretty cheap.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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Mine broke too, hence the fix. Pulled into the staging lanes and "POP"...I went rounds, but it wasn't easy. It's an aluminum turn buckle from Lowes I too broke the threads off my Pro-Ratchet by using a tall pistol grip handle on a 35 degree day. I put it in park too aggressively and snapped it off. I'm confused on the aluminum turnbuckle, do you have more pics? I'd like to go back to the pistol grip and mount it like yours.
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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions
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TCI = They Copied It. Looks like a skeletonized, flimsy Pro Stick.
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