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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2544872
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The pro matic 2.... what i REALLY liked about this shifter in the Mirada was that I was able to graft it in to the factory council. Looked like it was born with it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUkMXaLopI

The deal on the Duster was that we could never get it properly adjusted. Being it was “race” we concentrated on N and 123. Just could never find a happy medium. Both cars had Griner t-brakes and swapping the shift lever didn’t change a thing. Always figured something was just made “wrong” on that one.

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2544886
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Thank you for the videos!
I forget I have the world at my fingertips, so I went in YouTube and searched a bunch.
Not an easy decision because it’s something you only want to purchase once!,

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2544932
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I use the B & M Pro Stick in my street/strip car and I love it. Ron



Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: J_BODY] #2544961
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By ProSport
B&M Pro-Ratchet is all I run in my street/strip cars. Put it in and never worry about it, and it's impossible to ever miss a gear.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ2ll9gIVJk


Thats too much work lol

I like my Turbo Action Shifter, its so smooth, and the lockout mechanism is good, yet seamless to use. I can see how the design might cause problems for some with the automatic 1-2 shift but mine has been a 1.43 60ft and hasn't done it yet.


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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2544976
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Turbo Action Cheateah shifter is like a hot knife through butter. Gets the job done easily, but not with the accuracy you sometimes need. While I’ve heard plenty of “went from 1-3” stories (which is usually remedied by HITTING/SLAPPING the 1-2, not pulling the shifter) I cannot recall anyone else having the automatic 1-2 shift that I did. Issue on that deal was with the 1-2 being a straight back the t/a shifter is pretty much relying on the ball/spring tension of the rooster comb on the valve body to hold it in place which in my case, the G’s from launch, the handle simply moved back. It was happening so quick it wasn’t until the third pass with our band new W8 mill that I watched it happen. What I ended up doing was pulling the valve body, removed the rooster comb and touched it up with my Dremel. I also put a very thin spacer in behind the spring. This made the valve body nearly impossible to shift on the bench by hand, but did create more resistance to where the shifter had a better feel. It wasn’t too long after this that a nice clean N PPP with air came up for sale and I jumped on it.

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: J_BODY] #2545016
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I too like and use a PPP shifter.

They have a lot of options front or rear cable, push or pull upshift, air shift, Red or black.

Most people that say they don't like a PPP have NEVER used one. When I use a ratchet shifter I have Quickclick flashbacks.



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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2545153
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Man shifter prices have gone up. $384 for a TA cheetah, $303 for a B&M
pro ratchet :|

I just looked at my summit receipt and the TA cheetah was $280 way back in 2014.

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2545164
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I know some like them, but I abhor a ratchet shifter. Can't tell what gear you're in without trying to see the indicator or jacking the thing all the way to P or 3. Should be able to run it without thinking about it, looking at it, jacking with it.


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Another vote for the B&M Pro Stick. I run one in the race car and one in my street car.
Factory Slap Stick in my wife's `Cuda.
Both shifters are great.

Digger73 (Mike)


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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2545326
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B&M pro stick, this video shows that it doesn't just slap up into 3rd, but requires the handle to be squeezed? Is that right. Why would they do that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooXaFtrTGtU

Re the Pro ratchet, I have one and drive it around every weekend on the street. I'm never confused about what gear I'm in and if I ever do look at the shifter, e.g. sitting at a light to see if I'm in 1st (or I might just try to ratchet it back), it's certainly not anything that takes any thought or effort.

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: Just-a-dart] #2545437
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Originally Posted By Just-a-dart
I too like and use a PPP shifter.

They have a lot of options front or rear cable, push or pull upshift, air shift, Red or black.

Most people that say they don't like a PPP have NEVER used one. When I use a ratchet shifter I have Quickclick flashbacks.


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I had one of those Quick clicks!!
I hated it also!
I’m sure there’s been upgrades, but you are correct, it’s scared me away from them.
I truly appreciate all of the advice, and yes, that have gotten expensive.
But in this hobby that we love, what is cheap?
I’m thankful the advice here is!

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2545472
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I put a pistol grip on my Pro Ratchet, I like it a lot better than the ball.

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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: CMcAllister] #2545482
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
I know some like them, but I abhor a ratchet shifter. Can't tell what gear you're in without trying to see the indicator or jacking the thing all the way to P or 3. Should be able to run it without thinking about it, looking at it, jacking with it.


^^^ this

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2545537
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I've had two ratchet shifters, not knowing what gear it's in has never been an issue.


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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: Adobedude] #2545820
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Originally Posted By Adobedude
I put a pistol grip on my Pro Ratchet, I like it a lot better than the ball.


I like how you attached the pistol grip up

The Ramcharger I recently picked up had a pro ratchet with the pistol grip attached by just screwing on to the shifter arm, eventually it broke off due to the added leverage. your mount is much stronger up thanks for the idea.

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: Mr340] #2545846
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Mine broke too, hence the fix.
Pulled into the staging lanes and "POP"...I went rounds, but it wasn't easy.

It's an aluminum turn buckle from Lowes smile


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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: Adobedude] #2545997
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I have the reverse pattern and my shifter is
mounter higher than your but I use 2 fingers
to shift.. were little effort to shift.. I
guess with your being lower you have to hit
it a bit harder and it broke
wave

Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2546094
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My not liking the Cheetah shifter is I'd pull on it instead of slapping it, nothing I could do would break that habit.
Once installed my ratchet shifter and the in cab GoPro, I noticed I'm slapping the ratchet shifter.

Go figure.


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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: Adobedude] #2546100
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The one thing I would do once in a while was
not letting go of the shifter.. if you dont
let go of it it dosent set up for the next shift
but that was seldom I would do that( on my pro
ratchet)
wave

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Re: Automatic Shifters??? Looking for opinions [Re: wkroncke17] #2546153
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The GoPro pointed out I shift on the money when I leave 1st, when I'm chasing a slower vehicle I tend to shift late and bounce off the rev limiter.

Hence the Shifnoid install.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb3HbfhJXXM


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