Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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What's the budget for this effort? 12 to 15,000$ I would think
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Your typical B body like you're describing will likely be around 3700-3800 lbs. You'll need a REAL 825+ HP at the flywheel to run the number you want. You can build a stout, but streetable, 512 and hit it w/ a 200 shot every now and then to go mid 9s. Or go big or go home w/ the 512 and put some decent compression in it, E 85, and bigger heads than the Trick Flows, nasty roller and try to go mid 9s on motor. Either way, the stock block will be a time bomb. Or do like I did and get a strong aftermarket block and build a big, but streetable, 572" motor that'll run mid 9s all day at 3800 lbs on pump gas.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Assuming it's a stock car, but with appropriate chassis and wheel/tire upgrades to handle the extra power, I would think you will need at least 850hp to get you mid 9s. Late 90's I ran mid 10s in a stock steel body and full interior 68 charger. Had a Indy headed 451 that made about 730hp. No cage, 8 3/4 w 4.30 spool, 5200 converter, 8" steel wheels w ET streets.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Looked at a few numbers today.
The correction factor from sea level to 5000’ is about 1.05 for ET, so a 9.50 is close to a 10.0 @5000’. The Moroso chart shows 825hp for a 9.50@3800lbs, and “most” cars need about 10% more power than indicated to get it done. I’d be shooting for 900hp if that’s really the target ET. Less weight = less power req’d.
Basically, that ET is about 4.6lbs/hp if the car is sorted out.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Here is a picture of my 70 GTX which is same body as 70 RR. It has a Chenoweth built 493 stroker with Indy SR heads. You will need more with all the street goodies on the RR. MJ
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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What's the budget for this effort? 12 to 15,000$ I would think I dont really have a budget, I was hoping for 10-12K for the engine or so plus whatever power adder I go with. From the sounds of it, I might build this to a 10.5 street car and pick up a lighter car for racing.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Here is a picture of my 70 GTX which is same body as 70 RR. It has a Chenoweth built 493 stroker with Indy SR heads. You will need more with all the street goodies on the RR. MJ NA?
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Here is a picture of my 70 GTX which is same body as 70 RR. It has a Chenoweth built 493 stroker with Indy SR heads. You will need more with all the street goodies on the RR. MJ NA? Yes, 1050 carb with Indy intake. MJ
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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[quote=BradH]What's the budget for this effort? 12 to 15,000$ I would think I dont really have a budget, I was hoping for 10-12K for the engine or so plus whatever power adder I go with. From the sounds of it, I might build this to a 10.5 street car and pick up a lighter car for racing. [/quote} 10-12K isn't even close with new parts for a 900 hp 572. Mine was built from a combo of used and new. If all the parts were new it would be close to 20K. It'll run 9.20@145 at 4500 D/A, 9.0@150 at 1200 D/A. A dominator and single 4 might be a little quicker. 3340 race ready. The Turbo Late Hemi or SB stuff should get it done cheaper. Doug
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Doug, I drool every time I see that pic.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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The easiest, best, AND cheapest way would be with one or more turbos. Especially if you want to actually be able to drive it on the street too.
Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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Haha, yeah, not Mopar under the hood...
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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[quote=BradH]What's the budget for this effort? 12 to 15,000$ I would think I dont really have a budget, I was hoping for 10-12K for the engine or so plus whatever power adder I go with. From the sounds of it, I might build this to a 10.5 street car and pick up a lighter car for racing. [/quote} 10-12K isn't even close with new parts for a 900 hp 572. Mine was built from a combo of used and new. If all the parts were new it would be close to 20K. It'll run 9.20@145 at 4500 D/A, 9.0@150 at 1200 D/A. A dominator and single 4 might be a little quicker. 3340 race ready. The Turbo Late Hemi or SB stuff should get it done cheaper. Doug For the record, building a 572 or an after market block was never in any of my plans.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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This was linked to me from some where, but I cant find who posted it. Anyways, what about a setup close to this with a 512" motor and EFI? https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0604-440-mopar-engine-build/ And I also read these original blocks can hold more power if the engine is "boosted", is that true?
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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The easiest, best, AND cheapest way would be with one or more turbos. Especially if you want to actually be able to drive it on the street too. What does someone charge to fab something like that up? I dont have the welding and fab skills for anything close to that.
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Re: Easiest and or best way to run a 9.5et 70' Roadrunner
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[quote=Clanton][quote=BradH]What's the budget for this effort? 12 to 15,000$ I would think I dont really have a budget, I was hoping for 10-12K for the engine or so plus whatever power adder I go with. For the record, building a 572 or an after market block was never in any of my plans. I'd run a Late Hemi with a turbo. Stock block and forged crank will hold 1000 HP w/o issue. Stock heads are very good. aftermarket piston/rod for boost. Use a knock off Drag Pac intake. 20 psi should get it easy. Doug
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