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Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts #2521013
07/12/18 01:38 PM
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So here's the back story, Just bought a Dodge Aspen 1978 supercoupe, with its e58 360, auto 904, and either 2.94 or 2.73 gears. Untouche shortblock as far as I know with edelbrock performer intake, heddman headers, and edelbrock carb. It's pretty lazy, and I have only driven it in ND, it will be even worse here in Fort Collins CO at 5000 ft. Now I haven't tuned it any other than adjusting the Kickdown, and it's previous owner has and HEI style proform distributor in it. And if the carb and timing are as far out of adjustment as the kickdown lever was I am sure I can improve it a bit. But....

Has anyone ever just bolted on Centrifugal Supercharger like a Torqstorm on one of these? For a little over 3k investment seems like it could be a lot of fun and boost really helps at high altitude. I know cast pistons arent great for boost but it's low compression and If it's healthy enough to handle it for a while it could be pretty darn fun, and then once it dies, build an engine specifically for it and really have fun. This will be just a street car, I probably won't go over 3.55 gears in the rear.

What do you think, try it? Or ....??? Nitrous???? LOL

Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2521029
07/12/18 02:02 PM
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If you limit the boost(I would stop at 5 to 7.0 lbs.) and tune it so it won't ever detonate you may be able to have some fun while you save for the next, better build for the supercharger.
I would look at one of the water and methanol injection adder kits(Snow brand maybe?) under boost for added protection also up
Don't forget that the carb. needs converting for the blow through application, don't try running it without that!


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Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2521030
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Keep it out of detonation.

Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2521129
07/12/18 06:18 PM
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Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2521167
07/12/18 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By justintyme
So here's the back story, Just bought a Dodge Aspen 1978 supercoupe, with its e58 360, auto 904, and either 2.94 or 2.73 gears. Untouche shortblock as far as I know with edelbrock performer intake, heddman headers, and edelbrock carb. It's pretty lazy, and I have only driven it in ND, it will be even worse here in Fort Collins CO at 5000 ft. Now I haven't tuned it any other than adjusting the Kickdown, and it's previous owner has and HEI style proform distributor in it. And if the carb and timing are as far out of adjustment as the kickdown lever was I am sure I can improve it a bit. But....

Has anyone ever just bolted on Centrifugal Supercharger like a Torqstorm on one of these? For a little over 3k investment seems like it could be a lot of fun and boost really helps at high altitude. I know cast pistons arent great for boost but it's low compression and If it's healthy enough to handle it for a while it could be pretty darn fun, and then once it dies, build an engine specifically for it and really have fun. This will be just a street car, I probably won't go over 3.55 gears in the rear.



What do you think, try it? Or ....??? Nitrous???? LOL


Know somebody local who literally took a junkyard 360( have no idea on year) bolted on a torq storm, took it to the track and went 11.70’s without whipping on it. Dart Sport.

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Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2521281
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Thanks for the input Guys. Yes I would keep the boost low until I built a Motor specifically for it. And I know I need a blow thru carb set up or even thinking of going to a EFI set up like the Holley Super sniper as it can be hard to tune a carb with all the elevation changes around here. Head west and you go from 5000ft to 8000+ in no time, head east and you drop almost as fast. Makes carb tuning a real compromise unless you never go anywhere.

I really will play with it a bit first to determine if the engine is even healthy enough to try it, No use trying to boost something if it all ends up blowing straight past the rings or valves anyhow.

I'm really wanting to try it, even if I end up having to build a motor for it. Elevation really sucks the power out of everything naturally aspirated. My Turbo Diesel Jeep and turbocharged VW station wagon do much better in comparison, you can hardly tell that they lose any power even over 8000 feet. Coming back to CO from ND where I'm originally from it's easy to feel the power difference in anything naturally aspirated, even more so when you drive up into the mountains

Ill update you guys if I try it!

Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2521772
07/14/18 12:18 PM
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do it. I took a very mild 440 (70 block .030 over maybe 8.8:1) from 12.90's @ 104 to 11.98 @ 115 on a tad less than 6psi of boost. I did change the pully but never tried 8. It felt even better on the street.


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Re: Supercharging a low comp 360 thoughts [Re: justintyme] #2523565
07/18/18 01:06 PM
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Will do scraping up some funds for it now!







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