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Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2299690
05/05/17 07:46 PM
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I still got 2 451s and they both have run 5.49 at 265mph 15 years ago.

And I never drained the "breakin" oil lol before running them. I have never changed the original oil in any motor that I built or any motor from a car factory.

I have made more power than anyone on this board.

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: BadMoonRacer] #2299702
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Originally Posted By BadMoonRacer
I like this info; especially the combos similar in description to mine. Gives me ideas about where I stand regarding my combo (see sig line). Thanks earthmover for starting this thread.

Ragnar in Iceland


Thanks I'm trying to get a feel of about what my old turd should do ..hopefully I'll get it out this year if not I'm going to sell it and move on to my street car..

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: Challenger 1] #2299804
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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
I still got 2 451s and they both have run 5.49 at 265mph 15 years ago.

And I never drained the "breakin" oil lol before running them. I have never changed the original oil in any motor that I built or any motor from a car factory.

I have made more power than anyone on this board.
Slacker tonguue

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2300160
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Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: Challenger 1] #2301062
05/08/17 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
I still got 2 451s and they both have run 5.49 at 265mph 15 years ago.

And I never drained the "breakin" oil lol before running them. I have never changed the original oil in any motor that I built or any motor from a car factory.

I have made more power than anyone on this board.

WGAF rolleyes


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2301134
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted By Challenger 1
I still got 2 451s and they both have run 5.49 at 265mph 15 years ago.

And I never drained the "breakin" oil lol before running them. I have never changed the original oil in any motor that I built or any motor from a car factory.

I have made more power than anyone on this board.

WGAF rolleyes


I was wondering the same thing...

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2301164
05/08/17 02:08 PM
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I'm debating a 451 also. So let's hear more

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2301389
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Originally Posted By earthmover
Originally Posted By BadMoonRacer
I like this info; especially the combos similar in description to mine. Gives me ideas about where I stand regarding my combo (see sig line). Thanks earthmover for starting this thread.

Ragnar in Iceland


Thanks I'm trying to get a feel of about what my old turd should do ..hopefully I'll get it out this year if not I'm going to sell it and move on to my street car..





Something must be in the water I'm on the fence about selling mine


71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it.
67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's
Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: 67mprfan] #2301396
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Originally Posted By 67mprfan
Originally Posted By earthmover
Originally Posted By BadMoonRacer
I like this info; especially the combos similar in description to mine. Gives me ideas about where I stand regarding my combo (see sig line). Thanks earthmover for starting this thread.

Ragnar in Iceland


Thanks I'm trying to get a feel of about what my old turd should do ..hopefully I'll get it out this year if not I'm going to sell it and move on to my street car..




Something must be in the water I'm on the fence about selling mine



Lol well went through a divorce and and now property fight..i. self employed I own a couple dump trucks that keep me busy either working or working on lol.. would live to make some passes even build a new bigger motor I just have to get back in it..life will beat you down sometimes..just have to figure out what matters the most now days..

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2301454
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Originally Posted By earthmover
Originally Posted By 67mprfan
Originally Posted By earthmover
Originally Posted By BadMoonRacer
I like this info; especially the combos similar in description to mine. Gives me ideas about where I stand regarding my combo (see sig line). Thanks earthmover for starting this thread.

Ragnar in Iceland


Thanks I'm trying to get a feel of about what my old turd should do ..hopefully I'll get it out this year if not I'm going to sell it and move on to my street car..




Something must be in the water I'm on the fence about selling mine



Lol well went through a divorce and and now property fight..i. self employed I own a couple dump trucks that keep me busy either working or working on lol.. would live to make some passes even build a new bigger motor I just have to get back in it..life will beat you down sometimes..just have to figure out what matters the most now days..



Sorry to hear about your situation the nice things about Race cars we can push them in the corner until whenever


71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it.
67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's
Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: 67mprfan] #2302542
05/10/17 06:42 PM
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First off....there weren't many 451 low decks around (only in magazines) back then but.....I had a 383 rod 451 Low deck back in early 91's, home ported big valve 452's, Venolia zero deck flat tops, A Lunati 30307 520/547 lift 240/250 @ .050 duration with an M1/worked 830 Annular and 2" Pro-parts headers mated to Flowmaster 4-2-1's phased at 180. It had a 10" Fairbanks that stalled around 3400 and a 3.91 8 3/4 with McCreary Dirt Track tires. It was in a 73 duster and it ran high 6's in the 1/8th at about 100-101. Really quick for it's day as a street car and for what it was.

I had a Weiand Team G on it to try and it dropped off like 3/10ths, tossed that boat anchor in the drink. Thing wouldn't fall out of a tree with that manifold on it.

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Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: GTX MATT] #2304524
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Originally Posted By GTX MATT
Originally Posted By Saskabusa
Originally Posted By earthmover
As the title say let's here your 451
Car weight
Time
Parts


451

500hp/500tq

Turned down 440 crank
eagle rods
compression 10 to 1
Crane roller cam
holley street dominator
Stealth heads
exhaust manifolds



It was built to look stock ad go in my 74 Roadrunner.

Plans changed and it wound up in my 67 Charger.
3800 pounds race ready
Only made two runs lat year 12.1@112 or so.
I put some headers on it for this season so it should get into the 11's
runs on pump gas and no drama.

it is a nice change


Which roller cam?


I'm not sure. I bought it uses with a bunch of parts


1974 Roadrunner

1967 Charger
Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: Saskabusa] #2507771
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Originally Posted By Saskabusa
Originally Posted By GTX MATT
Originally Posted By Saskabusa
Originally Posted By earthmover
As the title say let's here your 451
Car weight
Time
Parts


451

500hp/500tq

Turned down 440 crank
eagle rods
compression 10 to 1
Crane roller cam
holley street dominator
Stealth heads
exhaust manifolds



It was built to look stock ad go in my 74 Roadrunner.

Plans changed and it wound up in my 67 Charger.
3800 pounds race ready
Only made two runs lat year 12.1@112 or so.
I put some headers on it for this season so it should get into the 11's
runs on pump gas and no drama.

it is a nice change


Which roller cam?


I'm not sure. I bought it uses with a bunch of parts


It's a Comp 308R

I added a set of Hooker Comp headers.

It runs a 11.55 @ 115 mph

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Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2507796
06/13/18 04:04 AM
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My prior motor...rb 451 with stock crank and rods. 10.6 comp forged pistons wiseco, with lightly cleaned up rpm heads with rpm intake and mp 557 cam. In my 68 charger at 3900 lbs, it ran consistant high 11.30’s to low 11.40’s at 119-120mph. Thats with manual tranny and 4.30 gears.


1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.
Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2507865
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Late 90's built 400/451. 12.5-1 Ross, eagle rods, 440 crank, comp 660 roller, ported Indy SR,Indy intake, 1090 demon, in a 71 Demon, street trim, 28", full exhaust, 3350lb, went 10.0 at 133.


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Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2507935
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A little different combo:

451 SMALL BLOCK

4.100" stroke x 4.185" bore

hopefully north of 900hp N/A

'71 Demon at 3000lbs

Should run in the Mid 8's

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2508064
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That's not fair.

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: merpar] #2508068
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Originally Posted By merpar
That's not fair.


All is fare in love and war. grin

Re: Let's here about those bad 451 . [Re: earthmover] #2508087
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440 .055 over.
Just shy of 4100 with me
Best of 10.88 @ 123.
4.30 Dana with spool on 30x9 Hoosier
8” PTC with a low gear set 727.

Here goes the build.

440 Indy EZ-1 With Roller Cam

75 440 Block .055 Over No fancy torque plate hone. Wish I had though.
Stock 440 Forged Crank, -.020/.020 on Rods and Mains, CB527P20, MS1277P20
SH876S Cam Bearings, 
ARP 627-3000 Main Bolts
Indy EZ-1 Max Wedge Heads, 2.19/1.81, PAC 1386 @ 1.925" 280/640, 513 SR
Intake Lift      Flow     Exhaust Lift      Flow
            .100     71.8                   .100      59.3
            .200    128.0                 .200      96.7
            .300    190.6                 .300     130.7
            .400    246.5                .400     158.0
            .500    300.0                .500     183.8
            .600    337.9                .600     200.7
            .700    349.3                .700     213.6
            .800    343.4                .800     221.1
T&D 1.6 Rockers 8215
Pushrods Manton Series V, 3/8 .120" 9.710 EL
NGK R5671A-8 Plugs, Gap .035
Comp Mechanical Roller Cam,
Custom Grind
.721 lift Intake .711 lift Exhaust .451/.445
268 Intake
276 Exhaust
110 Center Grind @ 106
Jessel Roller Lifter S905820-50
Cloyes 9 Way Billet Timing Chain 9-3625TX9-5
Indy Single Plane Manifold
AED 1050 Dominator 
91 jet, PIB .070, PHS .031 SIB .070 SHS .031
IB .059 SQ .035
MSD 7AL-3 7230
MSD Distributor 85463 (Locked Out)
JE SRP Forged Race Pistons .055 11.01-1 CR 213458
Total Seal File Fit Rings, CR9190-130, 1/16, 1/16, 3/16, .020,.020 Gap
Eagle H Beam Rod, .990 Pin, 6760B3D
1009 Fel-Pro Head Gasket, .040 Thick
Manley Head Bolts 42198
ATI Balancer 917122E SFI 18.1
Dougs Headers D452 
Moroso Vac Pump 22641

For what is in it and how heavy the car is I can’t complain.


1971 Plum Crazy Super Bee. 572 World Aluminum block with a Cope 727 & Dana 4.10 out back. 9.88 @ 138 with a 1.35 60 NA. Dialed back to 10.0’s. 4000 lbs with me in it.
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