Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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The fuel pump has check valves in it.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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I have the same problem. So does everybody else. A check valve won't solve the rapid evaporation of modern gas. An electric fuel pump is the only real solution that i am aware of.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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As stated above, the modern fuel evaporates quickly, especially when percolating on a hot intake manifold. I ran a priming bypass circuit on my "oil pressure dependent" fuel pump 12v circuit.
I can hear the bowls fill up after it sits for a few hours and even more so after a few days. The boat priming bulb seems like a good alternative for those who only want to run a mechanical pump, but I would certainly keep it away from heat, inspect and replace it as needed.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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Those priming bulbs must be Coast Guard approved to use them in boats, but I've never researched it. Maybe one of the members on here knows.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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Pretty sure CG approval doesn't included it being in near proximity to a hot exhaust manifold. Aren't boat manifolds water cooled?
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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Any electric pump used as a startup booster must have the ability to be "draw through" IOW, it must allow fuel to be drawn through it when shut off; not all will do that. Some here have recommended the Facet FAC-40109.
If you want to run the electric pump all the time as a booster, just about any low-pressure pump will work as long as the volume matches or exceeds the mechanical pump.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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I DON'T GET IT! Why oh why would you want to leave the mechanical pump in your system? It serves no purpose besides looking stock and acting as a junction for the fuel lines. The only thing separating the fuel from the crankcase is the pump diaphragm. People get all het up about electric fuel pumps, like they're some kind of voodoo or black magic. A carbureted street car needs one Carter P4070 mounted near the gas tank. It supplies the right pressure for a carb. They are also available from Spectra Premium and one other brand. Here's the Summit page: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-p..._content=CarterIf it is wired to get hot with the ignition, you turn the key to "on" for a few seconds before starting. The pump fills the carburetor and then when you crank the engine it starts. R.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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Those priming bulbs must be Coast Guard approved to use them in boats, but I've never researched it. Maybe on of the members on here knows. Right. But they are not under pressure in a marine application. They are located on the suction side of the fuel pump.
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Re: inline check valve fuel to carb
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Those priming bulbs must be Coast Guard approved to use them in boats, but I've never researched it. Maybe on of the members on here knows. Right. But they are not under pressure in a marine application. They are located on the suction side of the fuel pump. Good point. The photo was unclear as to which side of the mechanical pump it was on. It looked like the suction side given it's location, but as mentioned above, keep it far away from heat. It sure didn't look like it was far enough away from heat where it was shown. The addition of some additional fuel line could easily keep it away from heat, and regular inspections should help keep things as safe as a marine application.
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