That's a good idea! - I have used the zip ties and cur between two of them - but i like the clamp idea better - lately I have been using the black braided line - much easier to put together!

Thats what i just ordered. Black braided nylon outer layer. Have it all over the car.

Sure i could have went right down the road to exotic hoses and fittings to buy what i needed in brass fittings, but its not how i roll. Also didn't want the push on hose with ugly hose clamps some guys use either. Just not how i do it.

There are some differences between AN,SAE,and JIC hose fittings.
I used to do a lot of work on boom trucks and heavy equipment so I've used just about every type of hose and hose end there is.

SAE and JIC 37* flare are identical, there is no such thing as a JIC 45* flare, however, there is such a thing as a SAE 45* flare. The SAE 45* is used in low pressure applications such as plumbing and LGP or NPG installation.

Both JIC and -AN fittings are 37* flare seat angles. -AN is often incorrectly assumed to be the aluminum version of a JIC fitting, but in all actuality, -AN can be made from as many or more alloys than the garden variety JIC. Technically the fittings should not be interchanged, however, the only difference between -AN and JIC is the thread class. -AN is a military/aerospace spec fitting, with a tighter thread class (but still the same size and pitch as JIC) and is mostly intended for space shuttles and air planes. JIC was standardized to be a less costly High Pressure fitting that has no requirements of keeping a space shuttle in the atmosphere.

The fact of the matter is, that you would be extremely unlikely to find a actual -AN fitting for sale in any motorsport's catalog, or online web store. Most of the stuff marketed as AN whatever thingamajigger is actually just an anodized aluminum JIC fitting. Any true -AN fitting will be listed in it's catalog as conforming to mil spec MIL-F-5509.
Gus

I think most of us would be surprised as to which fittings are made in China nowadays. As Darren alluded to, some that may be packaged as being made in the USA etc, may only be anodised and packaged in that country. If the cost of those operations exceed the cost they're sourced for, they can have made in USA on the packaging. Despite being machined in China. Happens quite a lot with things like carbon bicycle frames etc

ok. thanks for the info.

Alot of trickery with the chinese stuff these days. Lets just hope things change for the better soon.

It's interesting that everyone is blasting Chinese made products. If you do the research you probably would find that most major brands are made in China. I did a quick search on Aeroquip. Major brand highly thought of as a great product. Aeroquip is a sub company of Eton a big conglomerate of different companies. Aeroquip states in their bio that all their [ hose ] is made in the USA and all of their [ fitting ] are shipped from their distribution center in OHIO . Now why would they say that???? I don't have the time right now , you guy's do some digging and see what brands are MADE IN THE USA

I bet not much. Seems like someone said MSD products are made in china as well. Havent researched it yet.

I used all summit brand fittings and hose on my Challenger. Not proud of it, but was on a tight budget and figured I'd probably be changing the setup a lot in the not so distant future so I didn't want to break the bank. 2 years later, no leaks (on 50psi EFI setup) no sign of deterioration of hoses even using their cheapest nylon braided while running e85 for a year. I hate to cheap out on something as critical as the fuel system but it does work and no indication that anything will fail prematurely.

I did have one of the smaller 6an swivels lose its swiveling ability after taking it off/putting it back on a few times. It made it a PITA to tighten and had to lube it up with a lot of motor oil to get the nut to spin freely. Didn't leak, and may have just been user error from me over tightening it.

I've had some cheap ebay fittings on cars for several years w/ no trouble from any of them.

Some people don't care, but I get tired of playing "hide the bologna" with these companies. The "assembled in" and "made in" game. Or they make it impossible to find that information (if made in China is OK with you, man up and say it's made there, bucko). A lot of the small, hard parts sold by most of these companies, like AN/NPT adapters, AN unions, etc. are made overseas and you just have to watch. The hose ends and hose are my main concern. "Where is this stuff made?" is one of the main questions I ask people at PRI every year. Most will be honest about it.

That said, I think that a company like Aeroquip will have stringent oversight and specifications for their stuff and/or their own facility for stuff made overseas. Not so much for the guy buying no-name, private label stuff from Phakin Junq Industries that he sources on Madeinchina.com.

My advice is pick one well known company - Aeroquip, Earls, XRP are about all I will let in the door - for your hose and hose ends to avoid compatibility issues. Stay away from the private label stuff for any of the rest of it unless you know where it comes from. Big Bubba's Race Car Parts on eBay is not making his own parts or selling decent -10 hose ends for $4. It's just not worth wrecking or burn a car up to use junk. There's different levels of "trouble", from pee poor threads galling when you put it together, up to losing the car because a hose end fractured. I have seen and heard enough to know it's happened more than once or twice.

Now I didn't say that Aeroquip AN fittings were made in china or overseas, I just referenced their "Quote" that their [ Hoses ] were made in the USA and their [ fittings ] were shipped from their warehouse in Ohio. That just struck me funny that they put that in the same sentence leading me to believe the fittings were not USA made.

All black Fragola fittings & hose with a few Earl's, XRP & Aeroquip mixed in on my Challenger. To me, the Earl's seem to be the cheaper made of the brand names with Fragola & XRP being the better made.

Good thing is I have hundreds of mixed fittings in black, blue, red, clear, brass & stainless at home & in the trailer so I never have to run to the performance shop to buy any. In fact, most everyone stops by my house for fittings before going to the performance stores. LOL.

Yep just googled it. MSD says some of there 6 boxes and the blaster 2 coils are made off shore, but we all know where off shore. I wouldnt say china niether if i had a company like that. I believe there caps and rotors come from china as well.

I remember a thread on a few years back about crankshafts being made in china and machine work done here in us. Thats not american made in my book.

That is what I refer to as playing hide the bologna. It may be USA, China, Taiwan, Mexico, Canada, the Moon. The CoO is usually listed on the packaging. Their company information allows them to have stuff made wherever they desire without being committed to any of them.

Made in the USA doesn't always mean what you think. You do know that there is a city in China that they renamed USA just for that reason.

Remember when "Made in Japan" was a derogatory term? It isn't any more...

Japan also made a city in 1967 - USA