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440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 #2498056
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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498185
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Good Job. This is the 'peeling the onion' approach to finding the weakest part in the search for higher performance. More money and more muscular hardware is the solution but You know that. Good looking car. Keep Going!

Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Dduster] #2498199
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Originally Posted By Dduster
Good Job. This is the 'peeling the onion' approach to finding the weakest part in the search for higher performance. More money and more muscular hardware is the solution but You know that. Good looking car. Keep Going!


Not good and it APPEARS the Dana was stock but still didn't make it yet my 8 3/4's been in the 9's and low 1.3 60 ft's for many years........... work Hope it's an easy fix for you guys........... luck


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498211
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Hey Thumper, what has been done to your 8-3/4 to make it live??
Thinking about ours, nodular, back brace, etc.?


Thanks, Joe

Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: jlatessa] #2498217
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Originally Posted By jlatessa
Hey Thumper, what has been done to your 8-3/4 to make it live??
Thinking about ours, nodular, back brace, etc.?


Thanks, Joe


Just back-braced for around 15 years w/stock caps and 30 spline Dutchman axles but now I run the Nodular Dr.Diff 3 rd member w/forged caps and stepped up to his 35 spline axles..........1.33 best 60 ft. so far footin to 2200 rpm's then stomp.......... beer


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498269
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What "broke" on a Dana??


HEMI-ITIS has no cure.
My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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Ring gear...............


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498280
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Where does it say he broke a Dana? It says bye bye 727.


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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Where does it say he broke a Dana? It says bye bye 727.


The video shows the broken ring gear,
which helped to take out the trans.


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2498292
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Where does it say he broke a Dana? It says bye bye 727.


The video shows the broken ring gear,
which helped to take out the trans.


I'd think the gear box took out the rear end. All I saw was a chipped tooth on the gear.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498335
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I would bet on the rear taking out the trans. Sudden rear lockup for an instant can strip the planetary splines, take out the sprag?

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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Bad340fish] #2498336
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Where does it say he broke a Dana? It says bye bye 727.


In the vid at the end it shows broken ring gears..........


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498341
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Doh, guess I should watch the whole thing! lol


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: gregsdart] #2498369
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yup sprag was rolled
Originally Posted By gregsdart
I would bet on the rear taking out the trans. Sudden rear lockup for an instant can strip the planetary splines, take out the sprag?

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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: mopar_man619] #2498370
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yeah we put used gears in the dana and didn't notice any stress fractures or cracks but they went. they were set up by a diff shop with a good rep. sometimes [censored] happens i guess. thats racing. she already back up and running. this was two weeks before MATS. we thrashed and made the race.


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: Dduster] #2498371
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thank you ! happens in racing ! we'll keep after it !
Originally Posted By Dduster
Good Job. This is the 'peeling the onion' approach to finding the weakest part in the search for higher performance. More money and more muscular hardware is the solution but You know that. Good looking car. Keep Going!


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Re: 440 Dart Carnage ! Bye Bye 727 [Re: jlatessa] #2498416
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Originally Posted By jlatessa
Hey Thumper, what has been done to your 8-3/4 to make it live??
Thinking about ours, nodular, back brace, etc.?


Thanks, Joe


Limit your track visits is the best insurance laugh2

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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By jlatessa
Hey Thumper, what has been done to your 8-3/4 to make it live??
Thinking about ours, nodular, back brace, etc.?


Thanks, Joe


Limit your track visits is the best insurance laugh2



Knock on wood I hold my breath every time my son leaves go of his transbrake in his Duster. We both know with 1.30 sixty foots and weekly Racing his 8 3/4 is being pushed.


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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By jlatessa
Hey Thumper, what has been done to your 8-3/4 to make it live??
Thinking about ours, nodular, back brace, etc.?


Thanks, Joe


Limit your track visits is the best insurance laugh2


That's what I do Jay haha

Glad you got it fixed Moparman619. Car sounds good.


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John what spline axles do you run? We were twisting our 30 spline stuff pretty bad with our W5 mill.

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