Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/19/18 05:39 PM
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Look into the socket.Ill bet the brass contact is deep ito the plastic piece that holds it.Saw that a lot.Ive been able to pull the brass out and get it higher in the holder.Thats as long as if you said you have poer to it.Did you use a test light to make sure you have 12 volts at socket?Rocky
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
[Re: maximus]
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05/19/18 06:32 PM
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Believe it or not I had a similar issue many years ago. The brass contacts were worn in the socket & I was broke. I put a drop of solder on the bulb contacts...and it worked for years.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/19/18 08:11 PM
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If the turn signal on that side is working then the socket and connections are working. Replace your turn signal switch in the steering column. When testing the turn signal switch for brake lights you should have two wires with current, one for each tail light.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/19/18 10:21 PM
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If the turn signal on that side is working then the socket and connections are working. agreed, from the connector behind the drivers kick panel rearward you are good cuz they both use the same large filament in the 1157 bulbs. Seperate the TS harness & in the column half of the pull apart connector with the stalk in neutral there should be continuity between the white wire which is the power coming downstream from the brakelight switch into the TS harness/switch & out to both of the "out wires for the dr/pass brake lights. that'd be a start. EDIT www.mymopar.com will have the colors for you but both should be hot at the same time in neutral (both brake lights light up when the turn signals ain't in operation).
Last edited by RapidRobert; 05/19/18 10:23 PM.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/20/18 11:55 AM
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How about with that TS harness connector halves seperated, you jump fire to the green wire in the downstream half of the connector & see if the green wire behind the drivers kick panel is hot which I'm sure it ain't now but that would for sure pin it down to somewhere inbetween those 2 points. I ain't up on how the hazards are wired/interact with this & someone had posted a pic of the TS harness & where each wire goes to but I dont know how to access it. Opens happen at the terminals/connectors/switches so just me I would take a peek at mymopar for the diagrams then grab my meter & I ALWAYS pull a batt cable BEFORE switching the meter to ohms (& you will do voltage checks also). Short version: I would start at the TS harness (green wire) & work downstream.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/20/18 01:14 PM
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I agree with some of the others. May be the turn signal switch. My Charger at one time the left brake light would not work. Turned out the weight of the turn signal stalk would drop just enough to not allow the brake light to not work but not enough to actually flash the blinker.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/20/18 01:31 PM
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The tail light and brake light are two separate circuits. That's why there are two filaments in the 1157 bulb. If the green wire out of the turn signal switch feeds the left turn signal then it also feeds the left brake light. Retest the green wire from the TSS while pushing the brake, it should have current as the brake pedal is compressed, if not the TSS is bad.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/20/18 06:06 PM
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/20/18 07:01 PM
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We can all sleep well tonight. I took a switch out of another steering column I had laying around and installed it into the Dart. Everything is now working as planned including the left brake light. I tested the one I took out of the Dart and found no reason why it won't work properly. All wires have continuity and all connections tested properly. Thanks for all the input. It proves 9 heads are better than one old one. Now onto hopefully the last electrical issue, the instrument panel lights won't work. Picked up a new light switch today, will start on that one tomorrow.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/21/18 10:33 AM
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The only times I ever ran into this situation it ended up being a bad turn signal switch. I agree lift the turn sig stalk slightly to see if it comes on. I don't know how many times I got pulled over for the left rear tail/brake light out. I would always lift the stalk to make it work. chased it for yrs till an old mopar guy said "just" change your TS switch. and "BOY" on that 68 if you adjust the reverse light switch on lower column they will go off when in drive.
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Re: 1968 Dart no brake light on left side
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05/22/18 04:49 AM
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Have you replaced the turn signal switch with anything other than NOS? It's been a known problem for years that the "parts store" replacement switches or the ones off the HELP! Brand rack were never cast properly and are warped making poor contact.
I chased this issue for months on my old Dart until somebody recommended I just get a junkyard part and be done with it. That's what I did and the turn signals worked again.
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