A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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I scored a complete 318/727 that is from a 70k mile 1/2 ton truck....for a whopping $5 at a local auction.
There is a 1 inch hole in the top of the bell housing that looks factory. Anyone know what the purpose was for. Other than all the cable shift stuff, are these any different than a car A-727?
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Re: A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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That hole is used for checking and setting engine ignition timing when that trans is in a van.
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Re: A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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A 1/2 ton 318 crank wouldn't be anything special. Is the -3 in the casting number? If so, its just a foundry index number.
The truck tail housing sometimes doesn't have the ears on the lower side for the console shift bracket. The side snap ring access plate didn't arrive until '72.
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Re: A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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318-3 is cast into the block, I'm not 100% sure which size truck it came from. Being still has the cable attached, throttle brackets, etc, I'm assuming a 1/2 or 3/4 ton. I know that the 318 forged crank 318 time span is sketchy. Some say 71-back. Others, it ended in 68.
Transmission has the cast in bracket holes. It appears to be the same as a 70-340 transmission I have on hand. Truck tranny pan rail numbers: PK28293140 2234 build date (1967 and matches block cast date)
Something else I noticed, is the crossover pipe in front of the pan.
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Re: A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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I thought that the number after the engine size was how many bore cores were changed in the mold at the foundry. that was my understanding of what that (- #) was.
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Re: A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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The people doing the casting didn't know in which vehicle the block would end up. So there's no way that a 318-3 engine would have anything cast onto it that signified that.
Your number is just a "dash number" which has to do with the casting process as mentioned above.
There are no magic dash numbers like some people think. With Mopar's spotty casting quality cylinder wall thickness, for example, can be all over the place. So if contemplating a high(er) dollar build, the first step should be checking the cylinder wall thickness.
I think you got a smoking deal! It's at least a good core. Given the toughness of the 727 it may be a bolt in and go part. The shift points are, as mentioned above, most likely at a lower rpm than a passenger car. Maybe John Kunkel will tell us.
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Re: A-727 From 68 Pickup different than a car 727?
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Forged or cast, the 318 was always internally balanced so the dampers aren't different for forged/cast. There's conflicting info but some sources say the 318 cast crank first appeared in '67 or '68.
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