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Re: Exhaust Interference and Drone Problems [Re: MuuMuu101] #2479722
04/09/18 12:11 AM
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Alright, so I went to an exhaust shop Friday and had them install some Helmholtz resonators. I had to do the math for them, but I came out to needing about a 25" long resonator. The muffler shop I went to was great. Really cool mom and pop place. Overall, the car is a little quieter, sounds a little different, and part of the drone has gone away, but not completely. Aside from exhaust tips, I think I am going to stop messing with the exhaust. Let's face it, I'm throwing 500+ hp through a tiny tube. I'll just cruise at 60 mph instead of 70 mph. I'll save gas anyway. Anyway, thanks for your help!

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Re: Exhaust Interference and Drone Problems [Re: MuuMuu101] #2480492
04/10/18 02:26 PM
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I used a cellphone app ("sound analyzer")to measure the resonance frequency. You might find that a small change in the length of your resonator might finish off the rest of your problem.

Re: Exhaust Interference and Drone Problems [Re: MuuMuu101] #2480798
04/10/18 10:52 PM
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Glad you had some sucess and part of the drone is reduced.

Exhaust tips that are small mufflers will help a bit more.

I do not understand how you decided on the 25 inch length for the stub without measuring the frequency in Hertz of the drone sound beforehand.

Changing your fuel chemistry will probably change the frequency of the drone a bit
and/or the rpm where it is maximum loudness.
You could try “pure gas” without ethanol,
or create a test blend by adding some E85 to regular E10 gasohol.

Hotter summer air temperatures will also change the drone a bit.

Re: Exhaust Interference and Drone Problems [Re: 360view] #2481308
04/11/18 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted By 360view
Glad you had some sucess and part of the drone is reduced.

Exhaust tips that are small mufflers will help a bit more.

I do not understand how you decided on the 25 inch length for the stub without measuring the frequency in Hertz of the drone sound beforehand.

Changing your fuel chemistry will probably change the frequency of the drone a bit
and/or the rpm where it is maximum loudness.
You could try “pure gas” without ethanol,
or create a test blend by adding some E85 to regular E10 gasohol.

Hotter summer air temperatures will also change the drone a bit.


I did measure it on my drive over (133 Hz). The equation I used that involved Hertz gave me a J-tube that was like 22 ft long. I either did something wrong with my units or had the wrong equation. It's very difficult to calculate the speed of sound as well as it's a function of multiple variable. I assumed standard pressure but a temperature of about 450-500F. After I had done the math using the 1/4 wave equation, I checked on other forums and they seemed to have some sort of success (whether minor or dramatic) when dealing with drone at 2000 rpm. So, I figured I was in the ballpark.

The plan in the future is to change the exhaust tips. I'm not sure to what, yet as I want something a little unique. After I graduate from my Master's in June, the plan is to remove the entire fuel system and install a Tanks Inc tank with a Fitech throttle body. So, that may change everything.

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