Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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I drilled a hole in the back of mine on the passenger side of the trans. Welded a elen head socket to a long 3/8 extension. Wrote on the bottom of the Bell housing the timing marks I need to align to adjust it the clutch. Worked good.
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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I drilled a 1" hole using a hole saw in the bottom of my lakewood, checked it only a couple times. Wast of time in my opinion. I adjust the peddle so the pressure plate starts to engage about a 1" off the floor.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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If your setting air gap, don't bother.
Set the pedal with an inch of free play and you'll be golden. If you don't ride the clutch, you can use half an inch.
I haven't set air gap since 1980.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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Not a lot of options out there besides Lakewood and Quicktime, which are both owned by the same company. I have had many cars with Lakewood shields in them. The Z bar is never in perfect alignment. The adjustable clutch pivot is for a Ford, maybe a Chevy setup. I have never found an aftermarket fork for a Mopar, and I never really tried to retrofit with one of the others, although it has crossed my mind. There are no replacement Mopar clutch forks out there. The earlier bracket designs were already riveted in, that was fun! You will really enjoy trying to get the shield in and out once the headers and exhaust are all bolted in.
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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Not a lot of options out there besides Lakewood and Quicktime, which are both owned by the same company. I have had many cars with Lakewood shields in them. The Z bar is never in perfect alignment. The adjustable clutch pivot is for a Ford, maybe a Chevy setup. I have never found an aftermarket fork for a Mopar, and I never really tried to retrofit with one of the others, although it has crossed my mind. There are no replacement Mopar clutch forks out there. The earlier bracket designs were already riveted in, that was fun! You will really enjoy trying to get the shield in and out once the headers and exhaust are all bolted in. Well the good news is that I have it in (for about the 5th time) due to the required bearing hole alignment process, yea, big fun with the TTi's (have I ever said I hate headers? Well, for the record, I DO!). So the clutch is bolted ion, shield and plate are bolted in, starter is installed (Now THAT was fun!). So the heavy lifting is over for now unless I hit another roadblock getting the clutch fork working properly. It looks ok so far but I'll learn more when I stab the transmission in later today.... Stay tuned.
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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You may need to space the fork pivot forward a little. Depends on the finger height of the pressure plate. If the fork angle looks wrong then a 1/4" to 3/8" thick spacer might be needed.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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Another thing I forgot to mention: the block saver will be pushed out toward the bottom by the oil pan rubber seal causing the bellhousing to block alignment to be off. You should notch out the area around it so the block saver sits flush against the engine block and not pushed away from it. That is the only way to make it fit correctly as the rubber oil pan seal probably sticks out by 3/8" or so at least that's my experience with every aftermarket bellhousing I've used.
Funny you should mention that. I did noticed that the seal pushed the plate out a bit, made me scratch my head but I figured it would be ok when tightened up. I installed the bell housing with the plate in place and did the front bearing adjustment with it all torqued in place so I'm assuming it will all be ok? It's all bolted up solid now and appears to be ok.....
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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There are 2 different length adjusting rods that go from the Z bar to the fork. 1 is supposed to be A body and the other B/E body. Don't get messed up with Mopar's designation. Sometimes you need the longer one, sometimes you need the shorter one. A sbc rocker pivot ball makes for a great pivot bushing against the fork. Just keep it greased. The nylon and rubber crap that comes in the Mopar kit is a bunch of junk.
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Re: Adjusting a McCleod Clutch with a Lakewood Scatter shield?
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Update! I have now removed everything back down to the block, starting over after a trip to the machine shop to have the required mods done to this pile of garbage they call a finished "product". I swear it makes me want to design a true bolt on bell housing that actually fits with nothing more than hand tools. What a joke! Put me at the top of the list to buy one if you do. But I doubt you'll sell more than 3 of them. Sticks are going the way of the doo doo bird. Most people under 40 can't even drive a stick.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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