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Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: 590 Challenger] #2460869
03/04/18 01:41 PM
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Educate me some, crank scraper "I believe" is to take oil off the crank to lighten it and bring more horse power?
Originally I thought the windage tray cut down on internal windage to make more power. My ProMod buddy says it's mandatory I put one in or 8500 RPM's will be blowing oil out of the pan everywhere causing issues. If that is the case, why does it need to be so close?

Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: 590 Challenger] #2460930
03/04/18 03:16 PM
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I make my own crankshaft scrapers, I shoot for .030 to .060 on steel rod motors. On your deal I would probably shoot for .090+ on the scraper with aluminum rods and .500 minimum on the windage tray to all of the rotating parts up I do add .500 drain back holes on mine also on the oil pan block rail side, 8 total spaced between the main cap bosses
I've seen witness marks on stock windage trays with stroker motors that had .200 + clearances on the engine stand shock work

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Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: Cab_Burge] #2460936
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
I make my own crankshaft scrapers, I shoot for .030 to .060 on steel rod motors. On your deal I would probably shoot for .090+ on the scraper with aluminum rods and .500 minimum on the windage tray to all of the rotating parts up I do add .500 drain back holes on mine also on the oil pan block rail side, 8 total spaced between the main cap bosses
I've seen witness marks on stock windage trays with stroker motors that had .200 + clearances on the engine stand shock work

I would have to assume one like they posted from Mancini with the built in O rings most likely won't have enough clearance and it's best to build one?

Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: 590 Challenger] #2460954
03/04/18 04:16 PM
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Just make one like the one shown Jeff! I think that all you are worried about is the crank picking up the oil out of the pan. Here are some more ideas...

Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: Dave Hall] #2461105
03/04/18 08:23 PM
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[quote=Dave Hall]Just make one like the one shown Jeff! I think that all you are worried about is the crank picking up the oil out of the pan. Here are some more ideas... [/quote
Thanks flater pan look easier, Maybe I'll just cut out my aluminium one and weld some square tubes across it to attach it to

Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: 590 Challenger] #2461109
03/04/18 08:28 PM
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Sounds to me like you just need a better oil pan. They are available from a number of sources. I have used Williams and Billet Fab and been very happy


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Re: Best way to attach windage tray inside oil pan'm sic [Re: Al_Alguire] #2461122
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Sounds to me like you just need a better oil pan. They are available from a number of sources. I have used Williams and Billet Fab and been very happy

I would have to chop it up to fit around the tube K member and steering rack, It would be a lot easier just to ad a windage tray inside the one I have

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